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Re: Hah.
Posted By: OmegaDate: 11/4/07 5:23 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Hah. (58)


: If there are 500 planets with 5 million citizens each, you have a total
: population of 2,500,000,000. That's two point five trillion, for those of
: you who do not like counting zeroes(the numbers for my equation are
: estimates: earlier in the thread, someone suggested that the number of
: human-controlled worlds rested in the "upper hundreds," and your
: statement that the populations sit in the millions).

It is stated that the population of Sigma Octanus IV is about 13 million (FoR p.212), and Harvest has a population of 3 million (FoR p.96).

: Given the prolific nature of the human race, I feel that it is safe to assume
: that there would be quite a few planets with populations numbering in the
: billions (by no means balanced by those with smaller populations).

On page 134 of FoR, Ensign Lovell reflects over his military career and is said to have seen a dozen worlds glassed and billions murdered. Obviously the population of the UNSC is many billions, but that doesn't really matter because of the limited ground on which they can fall back.

: If the human population were two trillion large, and if it had access to five
: hundred worlds, the UNSC fleet would number in the hundreds of thousands
: of ships. There would be millions of Marines.

It has been stated in the novels that the UNSC and the Covenant are about evenly matched on the ground, but in space the Covenant has a huge advantage. The population of Earth right now is about 6.5 billion. Consider that three Covenant ships in orbit could kill the entire population of the Earth in a matter of weeks, without having to drop a single soldier onto the planet's surface.

: Of course, I once calculated, based on information from the battle at Reach,
: that it would take something like a hundred thousand ships to have a
: chance of successfully assaulting the Earth, guarded by its three hundred
: MAC platforms, so I could easily be wrong.

The stations at Earth are Geosynchronus, and the Earth is pretty big. We don't know how much coverage one of the Platforms around Earth can provide, so destroying three might leave a large enough hole for a significant Covenant fleet to pass through.

: I still feel that "hundreds" is too generous; perhaps a hundred
: worlds.

Before the games were released, Bungie gave a backstory (available in the Story Page Timeline) which says the UNSC had over 800 colonies in 2490.


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Number of Colonies and Contact: Harvestkr-1426 11/4/07 11:05 a.m.
     Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: HarvestCthulhu117 11/4/07 11:06 a.m.
           Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: Harvestkr-1426 11/4/07 2:00 p.m.
                 Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: HarvestVVM 11/4/07 3:04 p.m.
                       Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: HarvestCthulhu117 11/4/07 3:07 p.m.
                             Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: HarvestVVM 11/4/07 3:22 p.m.
                                   Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: HarvestCthulhu117 11/4/07 3:46 p.m.
                                         Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: HarvestVVM 11/4/07 4:08 p.m.
                                               Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: Harvest58 11/4/07 5:36 p.m.
                                               Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: HarvestBry 11/4/07 11:59 p.m.
                                                     Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: HarvestDeckard 11/5/07 12:36 a.m.
                                                           Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: Harvestkr-1426 11/5/07 5:33 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: HarvestDeckard 11/5/07 12:46 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: Harvestkr-1426 11/5/07 2:50 p.m.
                                                                       Dekard was a real assholeSinisterSamurai 11/6/07 1:35 a.m.
                                                                             Yes, but was he human?Narcogen 11/6/07 10:54 p.m.
                                   Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: HarvestLouis Wu 11/4/07 6:53 p.m.
     Hmm... that's really low...Walshicus 11/4/07 11:14 a.m.
           From the Halo timeline:Jordan117 11/4/07 11:30 a.m.
                 Re: From the Halo timeline:Dundradal 11/4/07 1:00 p.m.
                       Thanks *NM*Jordan117 11/4/07 1:25 p.m.
                 Re: From the Halo timeline:kr-1426 11/4/07 2:04 p.m.
           Hah.58 11/4/07 11:30 a.m.
                 Re: Hah.BirDMaN 11/4/07 11:41 a.m.
                       Re: Hah.58 11/4/07 1:09 p.m.
                             Re: Hah.Thanatos119 11/4/07 1:15 p.m.
                             Re: Hah.Orpheus 11/4/07 2:43 p.m.
                                   Re: Hah.kr-1426 11/4/07 3:08 p.m.
                                   Re: Hah.gspawn 11/4/07 3:12 p.m.
                                         Re: Hah.kr-1426 11/4/07 3:23 p.m.
                             Re: Hah.Omega 11/4/07 5:23 p.m.
                                   Re: Hah.kr-1426 11/4/07 5:32 p.m.
                                   Re: Hah.58 11/4/07 5:47 p.m.
                                         Re: Hah.dude2 11/4/07 9:18 p.m.
                                               Re: Hah.58 11/4/07 9:27 p.m.
                                                     Re: Hah.dude2 11/4/07 10:15 p.m.
                                                     Re: Hah.Omega 11/4/07 11:04 p.m.
                 Re: Hah.Walshicus 11/4/07 2:08 p.m.
                 Re: Hah.VVM 11/4/07 3:08 p.m.
                       Re: Hah.kr-1426 11/4/07 3:11 p.m.
                             Re: Hah.58 11/4/07 3:33 p.m.
                                   Re: Hah.kr-1426 11/4/07 5:10 p.m.
                                         That, I can believe. *NM*58 11/4/07 5:35 p.m.
                                         Re: Hah.Orpheus 11/4/07 6:01 p.m.
                                               Re: Hah.kr-1426 11/4/07 6:18 p.m.
                             Re: Hah.dude2 11/4/07 9:08 p.m.
                                   Re: Hah.Omega 11/4/07 10:26 p.m.
                                         Um... not quiteWalshicus 11/6/07 1:26 p.m.
                                               Re: Um... not quiteOmega 11/6/07 4:38 p.m.
                 Re: Hah.Peptuck 11/4/07 7:40 p.m.
                       Re: Hah.58 11/4/07 8:37 p.m.
                             Re: Hah.Peptuck 11/5/07 1:01 a.m.
                                   Re: Hah.58 11/5/07 12:29 p.m.
                                         Re: Hah.Peptuck 11/5/07 8:11 p.m.
     I assumed it was semantics.Funkmon 11/4/07 4:55 p.m.
     Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: HarvestKorsriddare 11/5/07 9:47 p.m.
     800 FTWDevrous 11/12/07 3:18 p.m.
           Contact Harvest *Spoilers* Above *NM*Simpsons Rule 11/12/07 4:24 p.m.
           Re: 800 FTW *sp*Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 11/12/07 7:07 p.m.
                 Re: 800 FTW *sp*Devrous 11/13/07 12:36 a.m.
           More! (+calculations) *Spoilers*Devrous 11/13/07 3:34 a.m.
                 Re: More! (+calculations) *Spoilers*kr-1426 11/13/07 2:31 p.m.



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