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Re: My own H3 wishlist
Posted By: The More Deluded <TheAmazingOIiAndHisEducatedRodents@orange.net>Date: 1/29/07 12:59 p.m.

In Response To: My own H3 wishlist (Rockslider)


: Death animations: Drop the nondescript ragdoll death animations of H2 and
: revert to the highly amusing old-style death animations, which added so
: much to the enjoyment of nailing covie scum. The gameplay lost a big
: element of humour and satisfaction when Bungie went all ragdoll on us for
: H2.

gotta agree with you here, but make em more varied than H1, maybe a mix of rag doll and cool

: Elites: Make Elites animalistic and scary again, both in the way they move
: and the way they sound. Especially get rid of the cheesily spoken English
: lines, gadzooks! I want Wort Wort Wort and lots of it. If they MUST speak
: English, at least give it some heavy alien distortion to make it menacing.
: I want the heebie-jeebies put back into me!

I think this isn't gonna work with the elites taking a depper and more involved role in the story, which is probably why it went out for H2. Again, a mix, making em more animalistic when your the Chief, even if they are on your side.

: Jackals: If we MUST have Jackal snipers, at least tone them down a bit huh?
: They were way too severe in H2; a real drag on the enjoyment factor. Oh,
: and any chance of reverting to the old Jackal models? I mean, what's with
: making them zip along like hyperactive gerbils? The slow-moving skulking
: originals had far more character, quite apart from looking way better.

Snipers are bastards tone em down, but don't reduce their accracy, so shield goes down with one shot on heroic and legendary, cos that gives you a fighting chance, but you still have to be aware of how dangerous snipers are. But I liked em going fast, cos sometimes it was kinda 'blink and you'll miss it' sort of thing, which fits in with them being assassins. Bring back the blue shields and the skull cap thing too

: Grunts: I want all the original Grunt lines back dammit! Ok add in new ones
: if you want, but the old ones were inspired. The old animations were far
: better too, just as with the Elites and Jackals, so we'll have those back
: as well thanks. The original Grunts were a work of brilliance, and I find
: it a mind-boggling travesty how Bungie apparently failed to realize what
: it was losing when it redesigned them for H2. You are naughty Bungie
: people! Naughty!

No. I just can't find the H1 grunts funny compared to the H2 ones, gotta disagree wiv ya there.

: Covie weapons: Return the plasma rifle, plasma pistol and needler to their
: former glory, including the original sound effects. And especially the
: previously glorious needler, so rephrehensibly neutered in H2.

the Needler being twiddled with already, and while the plasma rifel should once again have a sence of accuracy, keep the sound effects they have for H2.

: Grenades: We must have those old frag grenades back! Preferably plasma
: grenades too. And chain reactions must be as glorious as before. I no
: longer play H2 but I seem to recall that chain reactions tended to be a
: lot more muted. The chain reactions in H1 added so much to the gameplay!

The old plasmas r crap. they look crap, and they don't look, feel or even sound dangerous, up until you of course kill something with em.

: Melee attacking: Restore melee attacking to H1 goodness. In particular,
: don't make it unpleasantly jerky, and don't vary the actual whacking
: animation for the weapon (because then you never know quite what to
: expect, which lessens your feel of being in control). I use melee lots in
: H1, but in H2 it went out the window - another key gameplay element
: mangled.

*cough* sniper melee *cough*

: Warthog and Ghost: Return to having the Warthog feel like a real vehicle,
: not like a light radio-controlled toy zipping about. Just like Slimby
: said. Same with Ghosts.

The ghost being restored to former glory I'm happy with, cos they did feel so bouncy, but the warthog... Well as long as they can actually run stuff down in H3 (and not you when you tap it slightly) then thats fine by me

: Grown-up gaming: Enough with the old-school boss battle madness and certain
: other regressive elements that creeped into H2 design. Return to the
: grown-up intelligence of the original game, which is part of what made its
: name and identity.

The only truely, mind boggilngly cheesy battle is the last one, but At least if you plan ahead its not so bad.
Heretic leader is just fighting 3 rangers, accept for the fact that two of em are holograms. sence= none
As for the Prophet of regret, the only part that really pisses me off is the smack talk- as its so irritatingly set in a pattern of cheap sci-fi insults that it drags

: Massive battles: All my other wishes have been to do with restoring
: gameplay to a point where I can at least enjoy it again. If I allow myself
: just one wish for actually PROGRESSING the goodness of H1, it would be to
: have some really large and massively replayable battles; stuff that can
: rival and even surpass the H1 megabattles (battles we only got by lucky
: chance rather than design, as far as I'm aware). I've heard a few remarks
: that hint at large conflicts, so we might actually be in with a shout
: here. But do Bungie truly realize just how good the combat can be in a
: megabattle? And if so, are they putting thought into maximizing
: replayability by use of carefully designed terrain and suchlike, allowing
: for many different battle plans? Thing is, I've never actually heard any
: Bungie person refer to the H1 megabattles, and I'm not even sure they know
: about them, and hence about how good the gameplay can be. So I'm kind of
: worried that this may end up being another missed opportunity to some
: degree. Still, fingers crossed.

Yeah, more marines, that'd be good. I mean if there supposed to be more realistic, why are they sending them in packs of 2?

H3 I imagine is gonna be a blend of H1 and H2, with plenty of H3 newness in the mix, and thats how I want it


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There's pie in that thar skyDucain 1/28/07 1:40 p.m.
     You're insane.Slimby 1/28/07 2:23 p.m.
           Re: You're insane.Dojorkan 1/28/07 2:43 p.m.
                 Re: You're insane.Rosco-128 1/28/07 7:01 p.m.
           Re: You're insane.Hunt3r 1/28/07 4:43 p.m.
     Re: There's pie in that thar skyBrodingo 1/28/07 2:31 p.m.
     Re: There's pie in that thar skyThe More Deluded 1/28/07 2:34 p.m.
     Re: There's pie in that thar skyCody Miller 1/28/07 2:38 p.m.
           Re: There's pie in that thar skyDucain 1/28/07 2:45 p.m.
                 At least your horse uses Herbal Essence! *NM*PharoahsRaiment 1/28/07 2:47 p.m.
                 Re: There's pie in that thar skyCody Miller 1/28/07 3:00 p.m.
                       Re: There's pie in that thar skyDucain 1/28/07 3:09 p.m.
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                       Re: There's pie in that thar skyDucain 1/28/07 7:51 p.m.
                             Re: There's pie in that thar skymasterskill 1/28/07 8:12 p.m.
     Re: There's pie in that thar skyPharoahsRaiment 1/28/07 2:43 p.m.
     Mmmm... Forbidden pie...Dr. Nick 1/28/07 4:47 p.m.
     Re: There's pie in that thar skyRagashingo 1/28/07 4:52 p.m.
           Re: There's pie in that thar skyDucain 1/28/07 5:11 p.m.
                 Re: There's pie in that thar skyRagashingo 1/28/07 8:06 p.m.
                       Re: There's pie in that thar skySlith 1/28/07 11:43 p.m.
                             Re: There's pie in that thar skyRagashingo 1/29/07 12:44 a.m.
     Water level? No thanks. It's Halo, not Blood Wake.Hikaru-119 1/28/07 5:16 p.m.
           Re: Water level? No thanks. It's Halo, not Blood WSocrates (Alt PC) 1/28/07 7:53 p.m.
     Re: There's pie in that thar skyDS 1/28/07 5:26 p.m.
     Re: There's pie in that thar skyLandis Mclain 1/28/07 7:32 p.m.
     Re: There's pie in that thar skyRosco-128 1/28/07 7:33 p.m.
           Re: There's pie in that thar skyDangerousHippo 1/29/07 8:07 p.m.
     Re: There's pie in that thar skySocrates (Alt PC) 1/28/07 7:39 p.m.
     Re: There's pie in that thar skyCaptain Spark 1/28/07 10:13 p.m.
           Re: There's pie in that thar skySocrates 1/28/07 10:56 p.m.
                 Re: There's pie in that thar skyCaptain Spark 1/28/07 11:46 p.m.
                       Re: There's pie in that thar skySlith 1/28/07 11:56 p.m.
                             Re: There's pie in that thar skyCaptain Spark 1/29/07 12:08 a.m.
                                   Re: There's pie in that thar skyDangerousHippo 1/29/07 8:12 p.m.
                       Re: There's pie in that thar skySocrates 1/29/07 12:14 a.m.
                             Re: There's pie in that thar skyDangerousHippo 1/29/07 8:13 p.m.
           Re: There's pie in that thar skyRockslider 2/1/07 12:21 p.m.
                 Re: There's pie in that thar skyCaptain Spark 2/1/07 1:09 p.m.
                 Re: There's pie in that thar skyJman 2/1/07 4:39 p.m.
                       Option to switch music offRockslider 2/1/07 7:36 p.m.
                             Hey Marty, whaddya think?Jman 2/1/07 8:22 p.m.
                       Re: There's pie in that thar skyTelTura 2/1/07 9:19 p.m.
                             Re: There's pie in that thar skyJman 2/1/07 10:19 p.m.
     Re: There's pie in that thar skyNarcogen 1/28/07 11:01 p.m.
     Re: There's pie in that thar skyPazicles 1/28/07 11:45 p.m.
           Re: There's pie in that thar skySlith 1/28/07 11:52 p.m.
                 Re: There's pie in that thar skyRagashingo 1/29/07 12:50 a.m.
                       Re: There's pie in that thar skyDojorkan 1/29/07 6:24 a.m.
                       Re: There's pie in that thar skySlith 1/30/07 10:33 p.m.
     Re: There's pie in that thar skyyakaman 1/29/07 7:22 a.m.
     Sink like a lead weight.Wraith7n 1/29/07 7:56 a.m.
           Re: Sink like a lead weight.scarab 1/29/07 8:05 a.m.
                 Re: Sink like a lead weight.Wraith7n 1/29/07 12:52 p.m.
     Thoughts on thoughtsPeptuck 1/29/07 8:16 a.m.
     Re: There's pie in that thar skyMercutio2000 1/29/07 8:39 a.m.
     Re: There's pie in that thar skyRockslider 1/29/07 12:27 p.m.
     My own H3 wishlistRockslider 1/29/07 12:39 p.m.
           Re: My own H3 wishlistThe More Deluded 1/29/07 12:59 p.m.
                 Re: My own H3 wishlistDucain 1/29/07 1:54 p.m.
                       the Doozy! *NM*The More Deluded 1/29/07 2:00 p.m.
                       Re: My own H3 wishlistDojorkan 1/29/07 2:11 p.m.
                       Re: My own H3 wishlistCody Miller 1/29/07 9:01 p.m.
                 Re: My own H3 wishlistRockslider 1/29/07 5:47 p.m.
                       Re: My own H3 wishlistDucain 1/29/07 6:42 p.m.
                       Re: My own H3 wishlistSep7imus [subnova] 1/29/07 7:35 p.m.
           Re: My own H3 wishlistRosco-128 1/30/07 12:54 a.m.
                 Re: My own H3 wishlistDojorkan 1/30/07 9:58 a.m.
                 Would sure like melee combosRockslider 1/30/07 4:53 p.m.
           Re: My own H3 wishlistCaptain Spark 1/30/07 9:33 a.m.
                 Re: My own H3 wishlistDojorkan 1/30/07 10:11 a.m.
                       Re: My own H3 wishlistRockslider 1/30/07 3:18 p.m.
     I agree for the most part.Gravemind 1/30/07 12:00 a.m.
           Re: I agree for the most part.Rockslider 1/31/07 2:59 p.m.
     Spotlight with Suzie: Needles to noodlesRockslider 1/30/07 12:30 p.m.
           Re: Spotlight with Suzie: Needles to noodlesRed_Breast 1/30/07 2:59 p.m.
           Re: Spotlight with Suzie: Needles to noodlesDucain 1/30/07 5:04 p.m.
                 Re: Spotlight with Suzie: Needles to noodlesSocrates (Alt PC) 1/31/07 8:43 a.m.
           Can't wait for Suzie to returnUrsusArctos 1/31/07 2:09 a.m.
     Re: There's pie in that thar skyCANTANATRIX 1/31/07 6:00 a.m.



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