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Re: Freecam without killing tricks
Posted By: Sep7imus [subnova] <rheppner@verizon.net>Date: 1/29/07 8:10 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Freecam without killing tricks (scarab)


: I was thinking along those lines myself. But who would be the player if you
: were filming half a dozen people in multiplayer? Or even two in coop?

: Do explorers care as much about exploring mp maps? Could you have a separate
: set of rules for sp and mp?

: And you'd still have the 3rd person effect of being able to see things that
: the player never could. Don't know how much it would matter, its still
: better than being able to roam completely unrestricted.

: I'd be happy enough with filmed games being from the player's 1st person
: perspective. Its more visceral and you'd feel less like a spectator
: because you're seeing the action from the usual viewpoint.

: Imagine Mike Miller's GDK blitz through the belly of the beast done in 3rd
: person. I imagine that it would look flat. You'd probably notice that the
: character models are a bit too gamey, not as good as feature film cgi.

: You would be watching as a member of an audience and not as a participant.

I'm not sure about the last part. I think it would be pretty great to see some of the awesome campaign-players in third person.

That being said, I think you and Narc are right that campaign needs to be different. The saved films (if there ARE saved films for campaign) need to be restricted to first person view or a few, close third person views. Otherwise, in addition to losing some of the incentive for tricking, you could just park the MC somewhere and then use the camera to look ahead on the level to see what's coming up, and where the enemies are hiding, and the like.

So, in summary:

MP: free-moving fly-anywhere camera.
SP: camera restricted to first-person or close-to-the-player third-person.

SG



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I think I may know the new "thing."Drakkari 1/27/07 2:40 a.m.
     Re: I think I may know the new "thing."DangerousHippo 1/27/07 3:16 a.m.
           Re: I think I may know the new "thing."MaCeGaC 1/27/07 3:48 a.m.
     Re: I think I may know the new "thing."Drakkari 1/27/07 4:48 a.m.
           Re: I think I may know the new "thing."Owm 1/27/07 5:01 a.m.
                 Re: I think I may know the new "thing."SF Legend 1/27/07 6:04 a.m.
                       I hope Halo 3 has nade chain reactions *NM*scarab 1/27/07 8:15 a.m.
     Re: I think I may know the new "thing."Louis Wu 1/27/07 6:25 a.m.
           Re: I think I may know the new "thing."gspawn 1/27/07 7:14 a.m.
           Wouln't that be the death og tricking?scarab 1/27/07 8:18 a.m.
                 Indeed *NM*Mirel 1/27/07 10:46 a.m.
                 Nomnemesis 1/27/07 11:35 a.m.
                       Re: NoDucain 1/27/07 12:16 p.m.
                             Double post - sorryDucain 1/27/07 12:21 p.m.
                             Has this been discussed?scarab 1/28/07 3:40 a.m.
                                   Re: Has this been discussed?Rockslider 1/28/07 5:21 p.m.
                                         Re: Has this been discussed?scarab 1/29/07 8:12 a.m.
                                               Re: Has this been discussed?Rockslider 1/29/07 4:42 p.m.
                             Physics and game enginesRockslider 1/28/07 5:13 p.m.
                                   Re: Physics and game enginesFoolsRun 1/29/07 9:16 a.m.
                                         Many thanks - interesting *NM* *NM*Rockslider 1/29/07 4:37 p.m.
                 Freecam without killing tricksNarcogen 1/28/07 11:11 p.m.
                       Re: Freecam without killing tricksscarab 1/29/07 7:43 a.m.
                             Re: Freecam without killing tricksSep7imus [subnova] 1/29/07 8:10 a.m.
                                   Searching and FindingNarcogen 1/30/07 12:08 a.m.
                             First person.Narcogen 1/30/07 12:05 a.m.
           Re: I think I may know the new "thing."Miguel Chavez 1/27/07 2:19 p.m.
                 Re: I think I may know the new "thing."DangerousHippo 1/27/07 2:34 p.m.
                 Re: I think I may know the new "thing."Ducain 1/27/07 3:05 p.m.
                       Rewind featurescarab 1/28/07 3:01 a.m.
                             Re: Rewind featurescarab 1/28/07 3:49 a.m.
                                   Re: Rewind featureBlack Guard 1/28/07 4:31 a.m.
                                         Re: Rewind featurescarab 1/29/07 7:59 a.m.
                 New thing = Saved Game & Game Settings Exporter?Dry Ice 1/29/07 7:40 a.m.
                       Re: New thing = Saved Game & Game Settings ExporteSep7imus [subnova] 1/29/07 8:12 a.m.
                       Re: New thing = Saved Game & Game Settings ExporteDojorkan 1/30/07 1:56 p.m.
           Re: I think I may know the new "thing."DS 1/27/07 3:09 p.m.
                 Re: I think I may know the new "thing."TelTura 1/27/07 9:50 p.m.
     Here's my guess.serpx 1/27/07 9:39 a.m.
           Re: Here's my guess.serpx 1/27/07 9:41 a.m.
                 2 ideas from old egm magMaCeGaC 1/27/07 4:26 p.m.
     Totally a spectator mode.Ma1agate 1/27/07 4:22 p.m.
     Re: I think I may know the new "thing."newDeviLedeT1 1/27/07 5:05 p.m.
           Re: I think I may know the new "thing."Spartan Jag 1/27/07 5:15 p.m.
           Re: I think I may know the new "thing."newDeviLedeT1 1/27/07 8:37 p.m.
                 Re: I think I may know the new "thing."raptor117 1/29/07 5:31 p.m.
     Frankie says it's not "Video Related."Drakkari 1/28/07 10:39 a.m.
           Re: Frankie says it's not "Video Related."newDeviLedeT1 1/28/07 11:13 a.m.
           Re: Frankie says it's not "Video Related."DS 1/29/07 9:12 a.m.
                 Re: Frankie says it's not "Video Related."Owm 1/30/07 4:31 a.m.
     chain reaction grenades mb?Brodingo 1/28/07 2:01 p.m.
           I said that... *NM*SF Legend 1/29/07 4:14 a.m.
     Re: I think I may know the new "thing."Rockslider 1/28/07 5:09 p.m.
     Online H1 bundled inside H3?rapture 1/30/07 10:55 p.m.
           MB, mb. But...Funkmon 1/30/07 11:45 p.m.
                 Re: MB, mb. But...CANTANATRIX 1/31/07 5:03 a.m.



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