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Re: Boss fights
Posted By: UrsusArctos <zloty5@netscape.net>	Date: 9/19/06 7:04 a.m.
In Response To: Re: Boss fights (Narcogen) : Yes, I'm not really sure where that idea came from. I don't know if a group : sat down and somebody outright suggested "let's have boss : battles" or if they were just trying to punctuate the double-levels : with a "special" encounter. : Of course, that just reminds me of Salieri's criticism of Mozart in Amadeus: : "You know, you didn't even give them a nice bang at the end of : songs-- to let them know when to clap?" : I suppose perhaps someone felt that emotionally H1 was missing something : without any bosses-- because there aren't any. None. Nothing comes close. : There are encounters large and small, but they don't follow a progression. : The last thing you fight in any given level is not, necessarily, the : hardest one. Emotionally missing something? Where did anyone get that idea from? I've played a lot of shooters that had bosses or lone soldiers killing whole cohorts of enemy troopers, and they came nowhere as close to believable or realistic as Halo. It emotionally gained something by dumping bosses entirely, in my opinion. : In fact, levels seem to be treated as sort of miniature dramas all their own, : with an act structure. Some begin or end in medias res, some have a climax : that comes midway through and there's a gentle tapering-off. : That works really well in some places. Think of the final pulse generator in : Two Betrayals. After the gauntlet that the second one was-- about half a : dozen rocket Flood, some before you trigger it, and some after-- you're : steeled for anything when you go in there. But there's just a few : sentinels. After you trigger it... nothing happens, just the cutscene. I agree with you, you've put this very nicely. : If one saw that as a detriment, then perhaps those people wanted some kind of : a boss encounter-- something where you fight 343GS. If one saw that as a : skilfull misdirection, then the way H1 works probably feels better. Well, I hope they've learned not to put in any more boss encounters. I think Halo 3 would be a goddamn mess if there were any bosses to fight.

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LOL at the article	WortWortWort	9/18/06 8:23 p.m.
Re: LOL at the article	Hawaiian Pig	9/18/06 8:28 p.m.
Re: LOL at the article	Unsc Trafalgar	9/18/06 8:33 p.m.
Re: LOL at the article	CowOnTheNews	9/18/06 8:38 p.m.
Re: LOL at the article	Slith	9/20/06 12:56 a.m.
Re: LOL at the article	Ace Heart	9/20/06 1:13 a.m.
Re: LOL at the article	Cocopjojo	9/20/06 1:21 a.m.
Re: LOL at the article	Slith	9/20/06 1:52 a.m.
Re: LOL at the article	Peptuck	9/20/06 2:10 a.m.
Re: LOL at the article	Ace Heart	9/20/06 2:53 a.m.
Re: LOL at the article	Peptuck	9/20/06 3:13 a.m.
Re: LOL at the article	Saint	9/18/06 8:41 p.m.
Re: LOL at the article	CowOnTheNews	9/18/06 8:49 p.m.
Re: LOL at the article	masterskill	9/18/06 8:57 p.m.
Re: LOL at the article	Slith	9/20/06 1:07 a.m.
Re: LOL at the article	Ace Heart	9/20/06 2:28 a.m.
Re: LOL at the article	Slith	9/20/06 2:31 a.m.
Re: LOL at the article	Peptuck	9/20/06 2:33 a.m.
Re: LOL at the article	Peptuck	9/20/06 2:45 a.m.
Re: LOL at the article	Slith	9/20/06 2:54 a.m.
Re: LOL at the article	Peptuck	9/20/06 3:07 a.m.
Re: LOL at the article	Slith	9/20/06 8:21 a.m.
When You Think About it...	Mintz	9/18/06 9:14 p.m.
Re: When You Think About it...	Evil Squid	9/18/06 9:20 p.m.
Re: When You Think About it...	Unsc Trafalgar	9/18/06 9:20 p.m.
Re: When You Think About it...	Echoes	9/18/06 9:22 p.m.
Re: When You Think About it...	CowOnTheNews	9/18/06 9:27 p.m.
You don't have to punch Regret.	jdogmoney	9/19/06 10:00 p.m.
Re: You don't have to punch Regret.	CowOnTheNews	9/19/06 10:58 p.m.
Re: You don't have to punch Regret.	jdogmoney	9/20/06 12:24 a.m.
Re: LOL at the article	ShortRoundMcfly	9/18/06 8:51 p.m.
Boss fights	Narcogen	9/18/06 11:05 p.m.
Re: Boss fights	Miguel Chavez	9/19/06 1:39 a.m.
Re: Boss fights	Narcogen	9/19/06 3:17 a.m.
Re: Boss fights	Jillybean	9/19/06 5:05 a.m.
Re: Boss fights	Captain Spark	9/19/06 8:17 a.m.
Re: Boss fights	Stuntmutt	9/19/06 8:39 a.m.
Re: Boss fights	Captain Spark	9/19/06 8:55 a.m.
Just kidding. *NM*	Captain Spark	9/19/06 8:57 a.m.
Re: Boss fights	Captain Spark	9/19/06 9:47 a.m.
Re: Boss fights	Stuntmutt	9/19/06 10:13 a.m.
Re: Boss fights	Document	9/19/06 11:11 a.m.
Re: Boss fights	Kiloh Ekim	9/19/06 7:32 p.m.
Re: Boss fights	Mister Froggy	9/19/06 7:35 p.m.
Re: Boss fights	scarab	9/20/06 1:04 a.m.
Re: Boss fights	Peptuck	9/20/06 3:35 a.m.
Re: Boss fights	Peptuck	9/20/06 3:38 a.m.
Re: Boss fights	UrsusArctos	9/19/06 7:04 a.m.
Re: Boss fights	Narcogen	9/19/06 7:25 a.m.
Re: Boss fights	Simpsons Rule	9/19/06 7:43 a.m.
Re: Boss fights	Sep7imus [subnova]	9/19/06 7:57 a.m.
Re: Boss fights	Jillybean	9/19/06 8:17 a.m.
Re: Boss fights	Louis Wu	9/19/06 8:43 a.m.
Re: Boss fights	Narcogen	9/19/06 9:23 a.m.
Re: Boss fights	Louis Wu	9/19/06 9:24 a.m.
Re: Boss fights	Stuntmutt	9/19/06 9:29 a.m.
Re: Boss fights	Narcogen	9/19/06 9:34 a.m.
Re: Boss fights	UrsusArctos	9/19/06 9:57 a.m.
Re: Boss fights	Narcogen	9/19/06 9:33 a.m.
Boss candidates	Narcogen	9/19/06 8:37 a.m.
Re: Boss candidates	Sep7imus [subnova]	9/19/06 8:48 a.m.
Re: Boss candidates	UrsusArctos	9/19/06 9:03 a.m.
Re: Boss candidates	Louis Wu	9/19/06 9:08 a.m.
Re: Boss candidates	UrsusArctos	9/19/06 9:44 a.m.
Re: Boss candidates	Narcogen	9/19/06 9:32 a.m.
Re: Boss candidates	Mister Froggy	9/19/06 9:44 a.m.
Re: Boss candidates	UrsusArctos	9/19/06 9:48 a.m.
Re: Boss candidates	Louis Wu	9/19/06 10:15 a.m.
Re: Boss candidates	UrsusArctos	9/19/06 10:24 a.m.
Re: Boss candidates	Count Zero	9/19/06 12:49 p.m.
Re: Boss candidates	Wado SG	9/19/06 1:05 p.m.
Re: Boss candidates	scarab	9/19/06 2:18 p.m.
Re: Boss candidates	scarab	9/19/06 2:40 p.m.
Re: Boss candidates	Peptuck	9/20/06 3:32 a.m.
intentional or not?	scarab	9/20/06 7:47 a.m.
Re: intentional or not?	Peptuck	9/20/06 10:16 a.m.
Re: intentional or not?	scarab	9/20/06 2:11 p.m.
Re: Boss candidates	Narcogen	9/19/06 10:14 p.m.
Re: Boss candidates	Narcogen	9/19/06 9:30 p.m.
Re: Boss candidates	UrsusArctos	9/19/06 11:32 p.m.
Re: Boss candidates	Narcogen	9/20/06 12:12 a.m.
Re: Boss candidates	Peptuck	9/20/06 3:43 a.m.
Re: Boss candidates	Document	9/19/06 11:42 p.m.
How is 343 GS tortured?	Jillybean	9/19/06 3:03 p.m.
He has that damn song running through his dome	Gryphonosiris	9/19/06 3:14 p.m.
Re: He has that damn song running through his dome	Ace Heart	9/19/06 4:10 p.m.
Re: How is 343 GS tortured?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/19/06 5:18 p.m.
Re: How is 343 GS tortured?	CowOnTheNews	9/19/06 5:22 p.m.
Re: How is 343 GS tortured?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/19/06 5:43 p.m.
Re: How is 343 GS tortured?	Jillybean	9/19/06 6:25 p.m.
Re: How is 343 GS tortured?	Bry	9/19/06 6:51 p.m.
Re: How is 343 GS tortured?	Endbringer	9/19/06 6:57 p.m.
Re: How is 343 GS tortured?	Ace Heart	9/19/06 7:41 p.m.
Re: How is 343 GS tortured?	Omega	9/19/06 11:17 p.m.
Re: How is 343 GS tortured?	Bry	9/19/06 11:46 p.m.
Re: How is 343 GS tortured?	Omega	9/19/06 11:59 p.m.
Re: How is 343 GS tortured?	Endbringer	9/19/06 11:59 p.m.
Clarity and grace	Narcogen	9/19/06 10:32 p.m.
Re: Clarity and grace	Jillybean	9/20/06 4:56 a.m.
Re: Clarity and grace	Narcogen	9/20/06 7:34 a.m.
Re: Clarity and grace	Bry	9/20/06 8:59 a.m.
^ HGN spoilers *NM*	Document	9/20/06 12:04 p.m.
Re: How is 343 GS tortured?	Bry	9/19/06 5:53 p.m.
Re: How is 343 GS tortured?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/19/06 6:08 p.m.
Re: How is 343 GS tortured?	Ace Heart	9/19/06 6:13 p.m.
Re: How is 343 GS tortured?	Bry	9/19/06 6:14 p.m.
Torture wasn't necessary	Narcogen	9/19/06 10:28 p.m.
Sparky can't lie or withold?	scarab	9/20/06 1:17 a.m.
Re: Sparky can't lie or withold?	scarab	9/20/06 1:36 a.m.
Re: Torture wasn't necessary	Jillybean	9/20/06 4:58 a.m.
Re: Torture wasn't necessary	Narcogen	9/20/06 8:02 a.m.
Still out to get me *NM*	Jillybean	9/20/06 1:18 p.m.
Re: Torture wasn't necessary	Ace Heart	9/20/06 8:54 a.m.
Re: Torture wasn't necessary	Ace Heart	9/20/06 9:20 a.m.
Re: Torture wasn't necessary	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/20/06 6:08 p.m.
Re: Torture wasn't necessary	Ace Heart	9/20/06 6:32 p.m.
Re: Boss candidates	Peptuck	9/19/06 11:59 a.m.
Guilty Spark	Miguel Chavez	9/19/06 9:29 a.m.
Re: Guilty Spark	Narcogen	9/19/06 9:35 a.m.
Re: Guilty Spark	scarab	9/20/06 1:21 a.m.
Re: Boss fights	UrsusArctos	9/19/06 8:51 a.m.
Re: Boss fights	Louis Wu	9/19/06 8:57 a.m.
Re: Boss fights	UrsusArctos	9/19/06 9:11 a.m.
Re: Boss fights	Louis Wu	9/19/06 9:17 a.m.
Re: Boss fights	Narcogen	9/19/06 9:37 a.m.
Definetly in the Christmasy time of year.	Endbringer	9/19/06 4:09 p.m.
Re: Definetly in the Christmasy time of year.	Document	9/19/06 11:32 p.m.
what?	hminn	9/19/06 6:30 p.m.
Re: what?	Louis Wu	9/20/06 6:09 a.m.
Re: LOL at the article	Peptuck	9/18/06 10:19 p.m.
Re: LOL at the article	Louis Wu	9/18/06 11:12 p.m.
Re: LOL at the article	Document	9/20/06 12:17 p.m.
Re: LOL at the article	Narcogen	9/20/06 11:46 p.m.
Re: LOL at the article	Narcogen	9/18/06 10:19 p.m.
Re: LOL at the article	Slith	9/20/06 12:39 a.m.
Re: LOL at the article	Ibeechu	9/18/06 8:36 p.m.
Re: LOL at the article	Spartan Jag	9/18/06 9:27 p.m.
Re: LOL at the article	Slith	9/20/06 1:35 a.m.
Re: LOL at the article	Kiloh Ekim	9/18/06 8:55 p.m.
Re: LOL at the article	Peptuck	9/18/06 10:11 p.m.
About boss battles...	Mister Froggy	9/18/06 10:23 p.m.
Re: About boss battles...	Peptuck	9/18/06 11:01 p.m.
Re: About boss battles...	Narcogen	9/19/06 1:17 a.m.
Re: About boss battles...	xenøs	9/19/06 5:04 a.m.
Re: About boss battles...	Narcogen	9/19/06 6:02 a.m.
Re: About boss battles...	Slith	9/20/06 1:39 a.m.
Re: About boss battles...	Document	9/20/06 12:24 p.m.
To quote the ending credits:	jdogmoney	9/18/06 11:40 p.m.
Re: To quote the ending credits:	owlalf	9/19/06 12:17 a.m.
Re: To quote the ending credits:	Document	9/19/06 12:25 a.m.
Re: To quote the ending credits:	Narcogen	9/19/06 3:50 a.m.
Re: To quote the ending credits:	Document	9/19/06 11:19 a.m.
Re: To quote the ending credits:	Slith	9/20/06 1:40 a.m.
Re: To quote the ending credits:	Peptuck	9/20/06 3:13 a.m.
Re: To quote the ending credits:	Slith	9/20/06 8:27 a.m.
Re: To quote the ending credits:	AT-GNaT	9/20/06 10:37 a.m.