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Posted By: Narcogen <narcogen@rampancy.net> | Date: 9/18/06 11:05 p.m. |
In Response To: Re: LOL at the article (ShortRoundMcfly) : That depend on your point of view, really; I don't really see them as boss
: Sure, they are a little more durable than the average soldier, but if they
Sure they should be more durable. And while being anti-climactic is true of many boss fights, it's not a requirement. They're boss fights because they are not merely different in degree from other encounters, but entirely different in kind. The Scarab, the Heretic, Regret, and Tartarus are all encounters that cannot be played like other encounters. The Scarab itself cannot be damaged. It is only destroyed when you reach the interior. It's a borderline boss, I admit, and when it won an award as the "best boss battle" a lot of people complained. The Heretic, I think, is probably also borderline because he, at least, is a unit that can be killed like any other. It's his magic holodrones, that despite being holograms, have REAL WEAPONS that make people call foul on him. Regret and Tartarus are the worst offenders. Regret simply cannot be killed by any means other than a melee strike, and there's absolutely no reason established in the game universe for this to be true. Add that to the fact that other weapons damage him, but don't kill him, and for the sake of this encounter you've taken the entire established rules of the fictional universe and thrown them right out the window. Tartarus is even worse. On Legendary he can only be damaged when his shield is down, and his shield can only be taken down by Johnson's sniper rifle-- another, presumably identical rifle, won't do it. Johnson also fires the sniper faster than you can-- it'll overheat if you try. If you knock him off the platform, he magically returns. The normal rules of the Halo universe simply don't apply to him. And so most of what the player has learned after going through Halo 1 and Halo 2 is not of use when fighting him. Instead, you have to follow pre-set sequences, like learning the turns of a Pac-Man maze. Lather, rinse, repeat. Board Regret's chair, punch him, he teleports away. Take cover, find Regret again, repeat. Find cover, wait for Johnson to drop Tartarus' shields, pop him in the head with a few Carbine shots, lather, rinse, repeat. Incidentally if you haven't tried it yet, the best place to do this from is the rotating platform where Commander Keyes stands during this sequence. You can't kill her, either-- but you can knock her off the platform with a plasma grenade. She just re-appears after a few moments.
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LOL at the article | WortWortWort | 9/18/06 8:23 p.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Hawaiian Pig | 9/18/06 8:28 p.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Unsc Trafalgar | 9/18/06 8:33 p.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | CowOnTheNews | 9/18/06 8:38 p.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Slith | 9/20/06 12:56 a.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Ace Heart | 9/20/06 1:13 a.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Cocopjojo | 9/20/06 1:21 a.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Slith | 9/20/06 1:52 a.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Peptuck | 9/20/06 2:10 a.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Ace Heart | 9/20/06 2:53 a.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Peptuck | 9/20/06 3:13 a.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Saint | 9/18/06 8:41 p.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | CowOnTheNews | 9/18/06 8:49 p.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | masterskill | 9/18/06 8:57 p.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Slith | 9/20/06 1:07 a.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Ace Heart | 9/20/06 2:28 a.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Slith | 9/20/06 2:31 a.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Peptuck | 9/20/06 2:33 a.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Peptuck | 9/20/06 2:45 a.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Slith | 9/20/06 2:54 a.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Peptuck | 9/20/06 3:07 a.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Slith | 9/20/06 8:21 a.m. |
When You Think About it... | Mintz | 9/18/06 9:14 p.m. |
Re: When You Think About it... | Evil Squid | 9/18/06 9:20 p.m. |
Re: When You Think About it... | Unsc Trafalgar | 9/18/06 9:20 p.m. |
Re: When You Think About it... | Echoes | 9/18/06 9:22 p.m. |
Re: When You Think About it... | CowOnTheNews | 9/18/06 9:27 p.m. |
You don't have to punch Regret. | jdogmoney | 9/19/06 10:00 p.m. |
Re: You don't have to punch Regret. | CowOnTheNews | 9/19/06 10:58 p.m. |
Re: You don't have to punch Regret. | jdogmoney | 9/20/06 12:24 a.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | ShortRoundMcfly | 9/18/06 8:51 p.m. |
Boss fights | Narcogen | 9/18/06 11:05 p.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Miguel Chavez | 9/19/06 1:39 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Narcogen | 9/19/06 3:17 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Jillybean | 9/19/06 5:05 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Captain Spark | 9/19/06 8:17 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Stuntmutt | 9/19/06 8:39 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Captain Spark | 9/19/06 8:55 a.m. |
Just kidding. *NM* | Captain Spark | 9/19/06 8:57 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Captain Spark | 9/19/06 9:47 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Stuntmutt | 9/19/06 10:13 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Document | 9/19/06 11:11 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Kiloh Ekim | 9/19/06 7:32 p.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Mister Froggy | 9/19/06 7:35 p.m. |
Re: Boss fights | scarab | 9/20/06 1:04 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Peptuck | 9/20/06 3:35 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Peptuck | 9/20/06 3:38 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | UrsusArctos | 9/19/06 7:04 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Narcogen | 9/19/06 7:25 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Simpsons Rule | 9/19/06 7:43 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Sep7imus [subnova] | 9/19/06 7:57 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Jillybean | 9/19/06 8:17 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Louis Wu | 9/19/06 8:43 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Narcogen | 9/19/06 9:23 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Louis Wu | 9/19/06 9:24 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Stuntmutt | 9/19/06 9:29 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Narcogen | 9/19/06 9:34 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | UrsusArctos | 9/19/06 9:57 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Narcogen | 9/19/06 9:33 a.m. |
Boss candidates | Narcogen | 9/19/06 8:37 a.m. |
Re: Boss candidates | Sep7imus [subnova] | 9/19/06 8:48 a.m. |
Re: Boss candidates | UrsusArctos | 9/19/06 9:03 a.m. |
Re: Boss candidates | Louis Wu | 9/19/06 9:08 a.m. |
Re: Boss candidates | UrsusArctos | 9/19/06 9:44 a.m. |
Re: Boss candidates | Narcogen | 9/19/06 9:32 a.m. |
Re: Boss candidates | Mister Froggy | 9/19/06 9:44 a.m. |
Re: Boss candidates | UrsusArctos | 9/19/06 9:48 a.m. |
Re: Boss candidates | Louis Wu | 9/19/06 10:15 a.m. |
Re: Boss candidates | UrsusArctos | 9/19/06 10:24 a.m. |
Re: Boss candidates | Count Zero | 9/19/06 12:49 p.m. |
Re: Boss candidates | Wado SG | 9/19/06 1:05 p.m. |
Re: Boss candidates | scarab | 9/19/06 2:18 p.m. |
Re: Boss candidates | scarab | 9/19/06 2:40 p.m. |
Re: Boss candidates | Peptuck | 9/20/06 3:32 a.m. |
intentional or not? | scarab | 9/20/06 7:47 a.m. |
Re: intentional or not? | Peptuck | 9/20/06 10:16 a.m. |
Re: intentional or not? | scarab | 9/20/06 2:11 p.m. |
Re: Boss candidates | Narcogen | 9/19/06 10:14 p.m. |
Re: Boss candidates | Narcogen | 9/19/06 9:30 p.m. |
Re: Boss candidates | UrsusArctos | 9/19/06 11:32 p.m. |
Re: Boss candidates | Narcogen | 9/20/06 12:12 a.m. |
Re: Boss candidates | Peptuck | 9/20/06 3:43 a.m. |
Re: Boss candidates | Document | 9/19/06 11:42 p.m. |
How is 343 GS tortured? | Jillybean | 9/19/06 3:03 p.m. |
He has that damn song running through his dome | Gryphonosiris | 9/19/06 3:14 p.m. |
Re: He has that damn song running through his dome | Ace Heart | 9/19/06 4:10 p.m. |
Re: How is 343 GS tortured? | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 9/19/06 5:18 p.m. |
Re: How is 343 GS tortured? | CowOnTheNews | 9/19/06 5:22 p.m. |
Re: How is 343 GS tortured? | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 9/19/06 5:43 p.m. |
Re: How is 343 GS tortured? | Jillybean | 9/19/06 6:25 p.m. |
Re: How is 343 GS tortured? | Bry | 9/19/06 6:51 p.m. |
Re: How is 343 GS tortured? | Endbringer | 9/19/06 6:57 p.m. |
Re: How is 343 GS tortured? | Ace Heart | 9/19/06 7:41 p.m. |
Re: How is 343 GS tortured? | Omega | 9/19/06 11:17 p.m. |
Re: How is 343 GS tortured? | Bry | 9/19/06 11:46 p.m. |
Re: How is 343 GS tortured? | Omega | 9/19/06 11:59 p.m. |
Re: How is 343 GS tortured? | Endbringer | 9/19/06 11:59 p.m. |
Clarity and grace | Narcogen | 9/19/06 10:32 p.m. |
Re: Clarity and grace | Jillybean | 9/20/06 4:56 a.m. |
Re: Clarity and grace | Narcogen | 9/20/06 7:34 a.m. |
Re: Clarity and grace | Bry | 9/20/06 8:59 a.m. |
^ HGN spoilers *NM* | Document | 9/20/06 12:04 p.m. |
Re: How is 343 GS tortured? | Bry | 9/19/06 5:53 p.m. |
Re: How is 343 GS tortured? | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 9/19/06 6:08 p.m. |
Re: How is 343 GS tortured? | Ace Heart | 9/19/06 6:13 p.m. |
Re: How is 343 GS tortured? | Bry | 9/19/06 6:14 p.m. |
Torture wasn't necessary | Narcogen | 9/19/06 10:28 p.m. |
Sparky can't lie or withold? | scarab | 9/20/06 1:17 a.m. |
Re: Sparky can't lie or withold? | scarab | 9/20/06 1:36 a.m. |
Re: Torture wasn't necessary | Jillybean | 9/20/06 4:58 a.m. |
Re: Torture wasn't necessary | Narcogen | 9/20/06 8:02 a.m. |
Still out to get me *NM* | Jillybean | 9/20/06 1:18 p.m. |
Re: Torture wasn't necessary | Ace Heart | 9/20/06 8:54 a.m. |
Re: Torture wasn't necessary | Ace Heart | 9/20/06 9:20 a.m. |
Re: Torture wasn't necessary | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 9/20/06 6:08 p.m. |
Re: Torture wasn't necessary | Ace Heart | 9/20/06 6:32 p.m. |
Re: Boss candidates | Peptuck | 9/19/06 11:59 a.m. |
Guilty Spark | Miguel Chavez | 9/19/06 9:29 a.m. |
Re: Guilty Spark | Narcogen | 9/19/06 9:35 a.m. |
Re: Guilty Spark | scarab | 9/20/06 1:21 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | UrsusArctos | 9/19/06 8:51 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Louis Wu | 9/19/06 8:57 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | UrsusArctos | 9/19/06 9:11 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Louis Wu | 9/19/06 9:17 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Narcogen | 9/19/06 9:37 a.m. |
Definetly in the Christmasy time of year. | Endbringer | 9/19/06 4:09 p.m. |
Re: Definetly in the Christmasy time of year. | Document | 9/19/06 11:32 p.m. |
what? | hminn | 9/19/06 6:30 p.m. |
Re: what? | Louis Wu | 9/20/06 6:09 a.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Peptuck | 9/18/06 10:19 p.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Louis Wu | 9/18/06 11:12 p.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Document | 9/20/06 12:17 p.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Narcogen | 9/20/06 11:46 p.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Narcogen | 9/18/06 10:19 p.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Slith | 9/20/06 12:39 a.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Ibeechu | 9/18/06 8:36 p.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Spartan Jag | 9/18/06 9:27 p.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Slith | 9/20/06 1:35 a.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Kiloh Ekim | 9/18/06 8:55 p.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Peptuck | 9/18/06 10:11 p.m. |
About boss battles... | Mister Froggy | 9/18/06 10:23 p.m. |
Re: About boss battles... | Peptuck | 9/18/06 11:01 p.m. |
Re: About boss battles... | Narcogen | 9/19/06 1:17 a.m. |
Re: About boss battles... | xenøs | 9/19/06 5:04 a.m. |
Re: About boss battles... | Narcogen | 9/19/06 6:02 a.m. |
Re: About boss battles... | Slith | 9/20/06 1:39 a.m. |
Re: About boss battles... | Document | 9/20/06 12:24 p.m. |
To quote the ending credits: | jdogmoney | 9/18/06 11:40 p.m. |
Re: To quote the ending credits: | owlalf | 9/19/06 12:17 a.m. |
Re: To quote the ending credits: | Document | 9/19/06 12:25 a.m. |
Re: To quote the ending credits: | Narcogen | 9/19/06 3:50 a.m. |
Re: To quote the ending credits: | Document | 9/19/06 11:19 a.m. |
Re: To quote the ending credits: | Slith | 9/20/06 1:40 a.m. |
Re: To quote the ending credits: | Peptuck | 9/20/06 3:13 a.m. |
Re: To quote the ending credits: | Slith | 9/20/06 8:27 a.m. |
Re: To quote the ending credits: | AT-GNaT | 9/20/06 10:37 a.m. |
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