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Posted By: Narcogen <narcogen@rampancy.net>Date: 3/6/06 7:48 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Narcogen's Great Journey write-up (Peptuck)

: Tartarus was talking over the radio. I assume that what you heard on the
: platform is simply overhearing the radio transmission, or

: No, no, no. There's an inherent problem with this line of thought.

: You're going about this from the perspective of a human who exists outside a
: ridiculously strict religious caste system. The Covenant, for all their
: tech, are a theocratic, medievilly structured caste with specialized
: roles. In that type of society, having a weapon like the Fist of Rukt
: defines a person's position.

It's from the perspective of a human, analyzing the motives and thoughts of another group of humans, Bungie, who are also just as outside a ridiculously strict religious caste system as I am. The Covenant are fictional.

All you're doing is repackaging "because Bungie wanted it that way." Covenant culture is not something that exists in reality. It is a fictional construction.

What I'm pointing out is that even if you're right, such extreme rigidity in a culture is likely to make at least some players-- myself included-- think, "wow, that was stupid of them." Which I don't think was their intention.

I don't think they had an intention to create a culture so rigidly structured that the head of one of the Covenant races would hog such a technology for himself-- especially when the other races in said Covenant don't do so!

It is far more logical to believe that since Tartarus was a boss battle, they needed to give him a special weapon, and that is what they came up with.

You're reasoning from the general (culture) to the specific (Tartarus' possession and use of this specific weapon) when, given the fact that this is entirely a fictional construction, it makes more sense to reason from the specific (Tartarus' possession and use of that specific weapon) to the general (Bungie's choices as developers in placing that weapon in his hand).

[snip]

: On Legendary it won't work, but on other difficulties it does. But that's
: because Legendary is "lol unfair" mode.

Which was more or less my point-- that in a few places, good sense is thrown out in an effort to adjust difficulty-- whether to the player's benefit or detriment.

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Narcogen's Great Journey write-upPeptuck 3/5/06 10:21 p.m.
     Re: Narcogen's Great Journey write-upConstruct-III (aka: AI Con.) 3/5/06 10:30 p.m.
           Re: Narcogen's Great Journey write-upMrAlexZander 3/6/06 1:37 a.m.
     Re: Narcogen's Great Journey write-upNarcogen 3/6/06 4:13 a.m.
           Re: Narcogen's Great Journey write-upDojorkan 3/6/06 6:32 a.m.
           Re: Narcogen's Great Journey write-upAnton P. Nym (aka Steve) 3/6/06 7:28 a.m.
           Re: Narcogen's Great Journey write-upc0ld vengeance 3/6/06 7:28 a.m.
                 Re: Narcogen's Great Journey write-upBodie 3/6/06 7:51 a.m.
                       Re: Narcogen's Great Journey write-upc0ld vengeance 3/6/06 10:16 a.m.
                       Re: Narcogen's Great Journey write-upNarcogen 3/6/06 7:40 p.m.
                             Re: Narcogen's Great Journey write-upThe Freeloader 3/6/06 7:44 p.m.
                 Re: Narcogen's Great Journey write-upNarcogen 3/6/06 10:03 a.m.
                       Re: Narcogen's Great Journey write-upInteractive Civilian 3/8/06 4:57 a.m.
           Re: Narcogen's Great Journey write-upPeptuck 3/6/06 10:31 a.m.
                 Caste OffNarcogen 3/6/06 7:48 p.m.
                       Re: Caste OffPeptuck 3/6/06 9:09 p.m.
                             Re: Caste OffNarcogen 3/6/06 11:49 p.m.
                                   Re: Caste OffStephen L. (SoundEffect) 3/7/06 8:28 a.m.
                                         Re: Caste OffPeptuck 3/7/06 10:50 a.m.
                                               Re: Caste OffNarcogen 3/8/06 4:36 a.m.
           Back with a touch more, but not much.Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 3/6/06 11:26 a.m.
                 Re: Back with a touch more, but not much.Burr 3/6/06 12:28 p.m.
                 Re: Back with a touch more, but not much.Count Zero 3/6/06 2:50 p.m.
                       Re: Back with a touch more, but not much.Ragashingo 3/6/06 2:59 p.m.
                       Thirded...-ed. *NM*Ma1agate 3/6/06 3:10 p.m.
                 Re: Back with a touch more, but not much.Narcogen 3/6/06 7:51 p.m.
                       Re: Back with a touch more, but not much.Construct-III (aka: AI Con.) 3/6/06 8:33 p.m.
                       Re: Back with a touch more, but not much.Peptuck 3/6/06 9:11 p.m.
                             Re: Back with a touch more, but not much.Narcogen 3/7/06 12:02 a.m.
                       Re: Back with a touch more, but not much.Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 3/7/06 7:09 a.m.
                             Re: Back with a touch more, but not much.Narcogen 3/7/06 8:08 a.m.
                                   Re: Back with a touch more, but not much.Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 3/7/06 9:20 a.m.
                                         Re: Back with a touch more, but not much.Narcogen 3/7/06 10:46 a.m.
                 Re: Fist = Supershield?drummand 3/7/06 12:21 p.m.
                       Re: Fist = Supershield?Construct-III (aka: AI Con.) 3/7/06 7:01 p.m.
                       Re: Fist = Supershield?Narcogen 3/8/06 4:40 a.m.
                             Big and hairy = uncomfortablec0ld vengeance 3/8/06 7:45 a.m.
                                   Re: Big and hairy = uncomfortableNarcogen 3/8/06 10:42 a.m.
                                         Re: Big and hairy = uncomfortableMa1agate 3/8/06 2:35 p.m.
                                   Re: Big and hairy = uncomfortableMrAlexZander 3/8/06 4:24 p.m.
                                         Re: Big and hairy = uncomfortableAndrew Nagy 3/9/06 11:41 a.m.
                                               Re: Big and hairy = uncomfortablePeptuck 3/9/06 12:04 p.m.
                             Re: Fist = Supershield?Peptuck 3/8/06 10:58 a.m.
     Re: Narcogen's Gre... Shooting Brutes in a BarrelInteractive Civilian 3/8/06 5:06 a.m.
           Re: Narcogen's Gre... Shooting Brutes in a BarrelNarcogen 3/8/06 10:45 a.m.



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