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Re: Prophet of Truth and the Great Journey
Posted By: mrbananas <dgreenwood@lacademy.edu>Date: 12/6/05 10:00 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Prophet of Truth and the Great Journey (jman571)

: wowo, ok that was long, next time in your title you should probably put
: *long* or even better *ridiculously long* to warn people if they'll have a
: lot of reading to do. Okay I don't feel like typing a lot but here goes: I
: read some of your theory above, but didn't really like it. The premise of
: the prophets being ignorant as to the true purpose of Halo seems too
: ridiculous. I also read almost all of your connected theory on the
: forerunner = humans thing and I do like that (the whole thing with the Ark
: malfunctioning and sending humans AKA Forerunner to Earth) but it would
: seem that with access to countless examples of Forerunner tech the
: prophets would have eventually figured out the true purpose of the Halos.

but you forget key words, faith.

its a religion, so think of this. if the how religion was a false corruption by the leaders. how could it last from generation to generation. religous leaders rise up due to there strong religios faith. therefore, how do the leaders pass the secert done from one leader to the next if the next in line has a strong faith. (he will either deny it, or feeling betrayed reveil it) the only way you could keep the secert is if you picked and chose the next leader before they developed a strong faith. but this would raise eyebrows as people wonder, why hasn't dave with his such strong devotion not picked over tim who just yesterday was questioning the fondation of the religion.

Any one who was against the religon was killed as a heretic, what if the most devoted of all relgious leaders was getting the secert passed down to him and he ratted him out as a heretic. then the secert would die right there.

Because ultimately, if the truth knew and believed the truth, and maybe the ark had some sort of the shield (though i dissuggest it) then it leaves the question what would truth gain from purposly killing everyone in the galaxy and being the only one left? since nothing beats getting into the divine beyond and living in eternal happyiness. i doubt any other motavation could convice truth to lose his faith and seek this out. despite what guilty spark ever send to me. i would keep my faith strong favoring the promise of the great jounery over any thing else.

: The idea that they would misread the proverbial "Idiot's Guide to
: opertaing the Halos" seems kind of stupid. If anything the prophets
: know dam right well what they do ands have kept it as a secret from the
: other Covenant species for all this time. Instead claiming this so called
: "Great Journey" results from activating the Halos. If the
: prophets are smart enough to manipulate countless amounts of other species
: and even the brilliant elites to do their bidding then they sure as hell
: could understand what the Halos are for. Surely, it's a ridiculous
: statement that the prophets are as stupid as you make them out to be.

you try translating a foreign langue with a book and see if you have much luck. if you try to translate word for word, your going to get the sentince structure wrong. know try translating it without any previous translations in exist. the language in a completely alien language, not a clue how grammer works. and no way to know that your right. thats the position the prophets were in when they came across the first piece of forerunner technology and writing. From that a religion based on an error could easily be formed. Then given time, faith in such a religion will increase tremodolousy, until you reach the point of when everyone excepts it as the absolute truth. Then, even when piece of evidence show up that start to condrict you religion show up. the strenght of universal faith push it aside.
Plus, when your key to translating the language were incorrect, then all your future translations will be incorrect, and how can anyone truely figure out the correct translation.
ITs like trying to translate a dead language with only the written language as your guide. you will notice patterns. but it will take you a long time to figure out what those patterns have in common, because you can only relate them to other patterns in the words. it will take you a long time to make an educated guess that the word is even a noun.

: Anyways, that kind of turned out longer then I expected, but your theory(s)
: raise some serious concerns over their validity.

history of the ark/forerunner/covies/man



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Prophet of Truth and the Great Journeymrbananas 12/6/05 4:04 p.m.
     Re: Prophet of Truth and the Great Journeyjman571 12/6/05 9:08 p.m.
           Re: Prophet of Truth and the Great Journeymrbananas 12/6/05 10:00 p.m.
                 Re: Prophet of Truth and the Great Journeyjman571 12/6/05 10:25 p.m.
           Re: Prophet of Truth and the Great Journeysmallwimpykid 12/17/05 11:25 a.m.
     Re: Prophet of Truth and the Great JourneyHalolover34 12/6/05 11:04 p.m.
           Re: Prophet of Truth and the Great JourneyCapt_Thanas 12/7/05 6:46 a.m.
                 Re: Prophet of Truth and the Great JourneyPeptuck 12/7/05 8:12 a.m.
                       Re: Prophet of Truth and the Great JourneyCapt_thanas 12/7/05 1:30 p.m.
                             Re: Prophet of Truth and the Great JourneyUriah 12/7/05 1:40 p.m.
           Re: Prophet of Truth and the Great Journeymrbananas 12/7/05 12:42 p.m.
                 Re: Prophet of Truth and the Great JourneyUriah 12/7/05 1:46 p.m.
                       Re: Prophet of Truth and the Great JourneyPeptuck 12/7/05 1:50 p.m.
                             Re: Prophet of Truth and the Great Journeymrbananas 12/7/05 2:46 p.m.
                                   Re: Prophet of Truth and the Great JourneyPeptuck 12/7/05 3:16 p.m.
                                         Re: Prophet of Truth and the Great JourneyRagashingo 12/7/05 3:23 p.m.
                                               Re: Prophet of Truth and the Great Journeymrbananas 12/7/05 10:18 p.m.
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                                               ^woopsmrbananas 12/7/05 5:00 p.m.
                       Re: Prophet of Truth and the Great Journeymrbananas 12/7/05 2:33 p.m.
                             Re: Prophet of Truth and the Great JourneyPeptuck 12/7/05 2:36 p.m.
                                   Re: Prophet of Truth and the Great Journeymrbananas 12/7/05 2:52 p.m.
                                         Re: Prophet of Truth and the Great JourneyUriah 12/7/05 3:08 p.m.
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                                                     Re: Prophet of Truth and the Great JourneyUriah 12/7/05 5:07 p.m.
                                                           Re: Prophet of Truth and the Great Journeymrbananas 12/7/05 6:30 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Prophet of Truth and the Great JourneyUriah 12/9/05 1:10 p.m.
                                         Re: Prophet of Truth and the Great JourneyRagashingo 12/7/05 3:16 p.m.
                                               Re: Prophet of Truth and the Great Journeymrbananas 12/7/05 4:25 p.m.
                                                     Re: Prophet of Truth and the Great JourneyRagashingo 12/8/05 3:34 p.m.
                                                           Re: Prophet of Truth and the Great Journeymrbananas 12/8/05 4:53 p.m.
                                         Re: Prophet of Truth and the Great JourneyPeptuck 12/7/05 3:18 p.m.
                                               Re: Prophet of Truth and the Great Journeymrbananas 12/7/05 4:32 p.m.
     Left behind, other meaning?Freezing Moose 12/9/05 9:52 p.m.
     Re: Prophet of Truth and the Great JourneySedated 12/14/05 11:11 a.m.
           Re: Prophet of Truth and the Great Journeymrbananas 12/14/05 2:49 p.m.



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