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Re: Is Miranda Dr. Halsey's Daughter?
Posted By: Tweek <twk128@yahoo.com>Date: 9/20/05 3:25 a.m.

In Response To: Is Miranda Dr. Halsey's Daughter? (Dark One)

: Now, I know this has been done before, but I noticed those times the
: justification was incredibly flimsy.

: To understand how solid the argument actually is requires some knowledge on
: foreshadowing and subtleties. An obvious example of a romance that is
: completely obscured by the author is in Lord of the Rings. Throughout Lord
: of the Rings implications are made. The biggest one is in Fellowship of
: the Ring when Aragorn is next to Arwen Evenstar. The other subtleties fit
: the term. It is literally only slight motions and some words or tunes
: trailed off in thought. Most of it is indicative of nothing more than what
: it indicates. However, when put together the implication is obvious.

: Now, where is this in Halo? Well, there are some fairly obvious parts, like
: in Lord of the Rings and far less obvious parts.

I just hope Joe Staten's reading this.

Damn good spec, man. Damn good. I'd buy it.
: I'll do the obvious parts right at the beginning of Fall of Reach.

: "The cover of Dr. Halsey's tube hummed open. Mist rippled out as she sat
: up, coughing. Her pale skin made her look like a ghost in the fog. Matted
: locks of dark hair clung to her neck. She didn't look much older than him,
: and she was lovely - not beautiful, but definitely a striking woman. For a
: civillian, anyway.
: "Her blue eyes fixed upon the Lieutenant and she looked him over. 'We
: must be near Eridanus,' she said.
: "Lieutenant Keyes almost saluted reflectively, but checked the motion.
: 'Yes Doctor.' His face reddened and he looked away from her slender
: body."
: - The Fall of Reach pg. 14

: Now, how does this prove anything? It doesn't. However, it quickly
: establishes a relationship on terms everyone can understand. Two people of
: different walks meet in strange circumstance all alone and they are naked
: to boot. This is clearly an attempt to build on a relationship, especially
: when coupled with later examples.

: "Lieutenant Keyes shot the doctor an admiring glance. He was impressed -
: few people could put a shipboard AI through its paces so rigorously as to
: cause a detectable pause."
: - The Fall of Reach pg. 16

: Yet another seemingly meaningless reference, but this serves an important
: purpose. This means he can appreciate her for more than her body. That
: adds significantly to the implication. This means the attraction is not
: simply hormonal. When the attraction is only hormonal any value you add to
: it is meaningless.

: "An awkward thirty minutes passed. Dr. Halsey was content reports on the
: navigational screens, and kept her back to him."
: - The Fall of Reach pg. 18

: This paragraph only sets the mood. An awkward environment simply creates a
: feeling of embarrassment, but between a man and woman of the same age this
: is indicative of some sexual interaction, as is to say, a standing
: relationship based on mutual attraction and no willingness to act on it.
: Of course, Dr. Halsey's behavior shows she's uncomfortable with it or may
: even find his behavior repulsive.

: "He reached for his pipe, but then checked the motion. She would
: probably think it a silly habit."
: - The Fall of Reach pg. 19

: This is glaringly obvious. This indicates he is trying to impress her or
: cares what she thinks of him, despite the fact he nevers cares at any
: other time with others except for fear of looking non-regulation. Such
: fears wouldn't exist in this case.

: "He glanced up. There was a strange look in her eyes. Pity? That caught
: him off guard and he looked away again. But he felt better than he had
: since OCS. Someone trusted him again."
: - The Fall of Reach pg. 20

: The importance here is that it gives him something emotional to attract to
: her with. A lot of people fall in love with someone for being the
: comforting voice. When someone can comfort you when you felt before
: uncomforted, is a very major step for building a relationship.

: "Lieutenant Keyes looked extremely uncomfortable in civillian clothes.
: He wore a loose gray suit, a white shirt, and no tie. Dr. Halsey found his
: sudden awkwardness charming.
: "When he had complained the clothes were too loose and sloppy, she
: almost laughed. He was pure military to the core. Even out of uniform, the
: Lieutenant stood rigid, as if he were at perpetual attention. 'It's nice
: here,' she said. 'This colony doesn't know how good they've got it. Rural
: lifestyle. No pollution. Climate-controlled weather.
: "The Lieutenant grunted an acknowledgement as he tried to smooth the
: wrinkles out of his silk jacket.
: "'Relax,' she said. 'We're supposed to be parents inspecting the school
: for our little girl.' She slipped her arm through his, and although she
: would have thought such a feat impossible, the Lieutenant stood even
: straighter.
: "She sighed and pulled away from him. . ."
: - The Fall of Reach pg. 21-22

: This is a very important area as well. It starts out by showing how Dr.
: Halsey can find an emotional attatchment to him. In some feminine way his
: serious behavior came to her as attractive and cute.

: The next important aspect is how she begins talking to him. She's having an
: observational conversation. Her observation is particularly important.
: She's commenting on the colony's quaint rural appearance. Such a
: discussion between a man and a woman is almost always linked to some
: deeper feeling.

: Dr. Halsey then goes on to try and relax Captain Keyes by being more
: intimant. Naturally, this fits in with their cover story, but the point is
: that she is clearly taken a gesture to calm him.

: This first part is the most obvious and full of implications, however later
: events add on to this.

: "She wished she still had Lieutenant Keyes. He had proven himself a
: capable assistant during the last month."
: - The Fall of Reach pg. 28

: This small reference is making one interesting point. She had gone from
: seemingly frowning upon him, to ignoring him, to comforting him, and then
: to respecting him in only a month. This can be described as little more
: than a sexual relationship under the circumstances.

: However, she also expresses the wish to have him back. Yet her only reason
: for not letting him stay seems to be that he was figuring it out.
: Certainly had he stayed it wouldn’t have been a secret anymore. Sounds
: more like she was trying to protect him from what was going on. That
: certainly shows some affection. In fact, before she seemed to consider him
: little more than excess baggage and didn’t seem to take much of an
: interest in whether he found out.

: “That had sparked his interest because of its author. He had never forgotten
: his first assignment with Dr. Catherine Halsey . . . nor the names of any
: of the children they had observed.”
: - The Fall of Reach pg. 141

: Now the important part is the fact he says it was his first assignment. This
: would imply three things: 1. He’s saying it was his first assignment
: period after graduating.
: 2. He’s saying he had assignments with Dr. Halsey after this, ones that
: didn’t involve the Spartan-IIs
: 3. He’s referring to when they observed John

: The first would seemingly be likely, but the sentence implies one of the
: other two. He first makes note of the assignment being with Dr. Halsey,
: despite the fact it was not her name that was on it. The slight pause
: implies that when first saw it, the second thing he recognized was the
: name, and that he actually thought of Dr. Halsey before Fhajad. This
: matters because it means Dr. Halsey is closer to his recollection, than
: the Spartans. Even though, by all rights, the Spartans should be the first
: he thinks of as their existence has long been acknowledged and undoubtedly
: is whispered about at times.

: More importantly, is that if it was that he was referring to his first
: assignment with Dr. Halsey and not just his first assignment, it would
: either mean he had seen her several times after being reassigned to the
: Magellan or that he found the part where they observed John to be the most
: memorable. Neither is necessarily wrong, either. It’s obvious he has a
: little more appreciation for Master Chief, than the other Spartans.

: “‘We met a very long time ago. Dr. Halsey and I - ’ He stopped. ‘Hell. I’m
: not allowed to talk about it.’”
: - The Fall of Reach pg. 219

: The importance here is that he so readily prepares to tell Master Chief
: something he isn’t supposed to talk about. He realizes mid-sentence that
: he shouldn’t. This indicates he didn’t think about it before he said
: anything. For a man like Keyes, who thinks through everything, this lapse
: can only be explained by some emotional reason. Either seeing John
: inspires this or simply being reminded of his assignment with Dr. Halsey.
: Given the nature of the situation, it seems more likely it was thinking of
: Dr. Halsey that brought this back.

: “‘Irritated, sir?’ John asked, genuinely puzzled. He would have thought the
: UNSC top brass would be elated by the victory, despite its cost. ‘But we
: won.’
: “Captain Keyes took a step back and cocked a quizzical eyebrow. ‘Didn’t Dr.
: Halsey ever teach you that winning isn’t everything, Master Chief?’ He
: saluted. ‘You’ll excuse me.’”
: - The Fall of Reach pg. 220

: Yet again he so quickly brings up Dr. Halsey. This makes it kind of hard to
: believe he only spent a month with her or that nothing happened in that
: month. He also seems to know Dr. Halsey’s role to the Spartans. While he
: undoubtedly knew she was in charge of the project, there’s no reason he’d
: know how active she would be in it.

: “Cortana framed her fingers around the man’s face. ‘He’s so serious,’ she
: murmured. ‘Thoughtful eyes, though. Attractive in a primitive animal sort
: of way, don’t you think, Doctor?’
: “Dr. Halsey blushed. Apparently, she did think so. Cortana’s thoughts
: mirrored many of her own, only unchecked normal military and social
: protocol.”
: - The Fall of Reach pg. 236

: Now, this just adds on to what happens at the beginning. The way Cortana
: describes Master Chief is very much akin to Captain Keyes. So, as
: Cortana’s thoughts echo Dr. Halsey’s, one would assume she would have
: similar interests. The fact Dr. Halsey chose Captain Keyes for the
: assignment is proof enough of that.

: “The Spartans stood at attention and saluted. Keyes returned their salute.
: ‘At ease,’ he said. He escorted Dr. Halsey to the center stage.”
: - The Fall of Reach pg. 240

: Now here may seem the least important, but it’s actually the most telling.
: Captain Keyes is escorting her only a few dozen feet to the center of the
: stage. This is completely unnecessary and, given Dr. Halsey’s personality,
: really unlikely. The fact that Keyes is described as escorting her in such
: a situation can only be indicative. Escorting in this case would imply
: some form of physical contact. This should help people reading this to
: understand: Accompany suggests going with another on an equal basis: She
: went to Europe accompanied by her colleague. Conduct implies guidance of
: others: The usher conducted us to our seats. Escort stresses protective
: guidance: The party chairperson escorted the candidate through the crowd.
: Chaperon specifies adult supervision of young persons: My mom helped
: chaperon the prom.
: Source: Dictionary.com

: Accompany would have been a far more appropriate term were this trying to
: depict simple respect. The use of the word escort seems to imply
: protectiveness that would, under the circumstances, imply some deeper
: affection. In a way this is shown through some of Keyes’ behavior during
: Dr. Halsey’s statement and Dr. Halsey giving glittering praise to Keyes.

: Now, First Strike made some of the more subtle implications. In fact, there’s
: only one written implication and two that are unwritten.

: “‘I see,’ Dr. Halsey replied. ‘And Captain Keyes? John?’”
: - First Strike pg. 121

: Now this is interesting. John is clearly acknowledged as Dr. Halsey’s
: favorite Spartan. In fact she seems to consider John, more than any other
: Spartan, her child. Yet John is not the first person she asks about.
: Meaning the person she was most concerned about was Captain Keyes. Usually
: the only person a woman would worry about before worrying about her
: children would be her lover or husband. This just drives home the amount
: of concern Dr. Halsey has for Captain Keyes, which is rather unnatural for
: her.

: “‘I volunteered to be the fail-safe option,’ she told Kelly. ‘In the lower
: levels of these caverns are enough high explosives to level the facility –
: in case we were overrun by the enemy. I’m here to make sure no one gets
: access to our technology.’”
: - First Strike pg. 121

: This brings up a pretty odd question. Why did Dr. Halsey volunteer to be the
: fail-safe option? Not that she’s a coward or anything of that sort. It
: just seems to be out of character for her to volunteer to either kill
: herself or let the Covenant kill her eventually. I can only think she
: volunteered for personal reasons. The only thing is, what personal reasons
: would she have? Well, there seems to be little purpose for her. She would
: undoubtedly think that, with Reach falling, if Keyes and the Spartans
: hadn’t started their mission they would be pulled back to Reach and likely
: die in the battle. Even if they survived, she would likely have little
: hope for their success. More importantly, she would have little hope for
: Keyes’ success. When the second-strongest military installation in
: human-controlled space is falling, one wouldn’t likely put faith in
: anything anymore. However, had Keyes and the Spartans been likely to
: survive, she would have probably tried to escape. Since it seems she
: worries more about Keyes, it’s likely that would be one of the chief
: reasons.

: “Her eyes focused past him as she struggled to find the words to match her
: conflicting emotions. ‘For a long time I had thought that we had to
: sacrifice a few for the good of the entire human race.’ She took a deep
: breath and let it go with a heavy sigh. ‘I have killed and maimed and
: caused a great deal of suffering to many people – all in the name of
: self-preservation.’ Her steely blue gaze found him. ‘But now I’m not sure
: that philosophy has worked out too well. I should have been trying to save
: every single human life – no matter what it cost.’”
: - First Strike pg. 245

: There are two things important about this section. The first thing is her
: behavior. She’s described as having “conflicting emotions” and her
: reaction after saying she thought that “we had to sacrifice a few for the
: good of the entire human race” indicates that she is likely thinking of
: some of the few she sacrificed for the “greater good”. The second is not
: what she says, but when she says it. Her changed perspective and behavior
: comes after leaving Reach. In other words, she only begins to behave the
: way she does after learning the events on Halo. Reach falling around her,
: the knowledge that many of her Spartans were probably dead, and her
: seemingly inevitable doom are clearly not an influence.

: The events that happened on Halo clearly brought home the failure of her
: philosophy. So the question is, why? The deaths of the Marines would
: certainly have no bearing or the story of Sergeant Johnson, as she never
: met him before. So what’s left? The only thing left would be the death of
: Captain Keyes. One has to keep in mind that, more or less, Dr. Halsey is
: the reason he died. She gave him the mission, knowing he may end up dying,
: hoping to stop the Covenant. So, naturally, she’d blame herself for his
: death and lose faith in her philosophy. Now, given that we can safely say
: Dr. Halsey and Captain Keyes had a closer-than-usual relationship, it
: would seem likely that her guilt for his death would lead her to her
: actions. This just provides further evidence of the depth of their
: relationship.

: Of course, all of this would be kind of useless if it’s clearly stated one of
: them was married to someone else and only had children with them. However,
: nothing of children or marriage is said of Dr. Halsey. There are only
: three small points where any indication is made that Captain Keyes might
: have a relationship with someone else.

: “His fear vanished in a flood of emotion as he felt the warmth of the first
: woman he’d ever kissed . . .”
: - The Flood pg. 226

: “The image of a smiling woman,”
: - The Flood pg. 227

: These two snippets refer to a woman or women, but of course these don’t
: really provide a case for him being married or in a relationship in
: another woman. One or both of these women could easily be Dr. Halsey, two
: different women with no importance at all, or the smiling woman could
: easily be a relative. However, one of the more subtle points could easily
: be the most damaging: “The gentle sound of wind chimes, the smell of newly
: baked bread.”
: - The Flood pg. 227

: Now, this can be damaging because both provide images of home. These two
: memories may be subtly telling the reader that Keyes was married. Wind
: chimes are something that will be identified with a home and newly baked
: bread is something would be identified with a women, often a mother or
: wife. Of course, this only provides minor subtleties that may or may not
: substantiate Keyes having a wife or, more importantly, not having a
: relationship with Dr. Halsey.

: However, only two characters are ever mentioned to be married and there are
: no subtle hints with them. This refers to Colonel Ackerson and Sam Marcus.
: Both were acknowledged to be married and this was openly made apparent.
: Neither are the most major characters, yet they are said to be married.
: Given that most major characters mentioned are not the kind to likely be
: married, it would be reasonable to conclude that acknowledging Keyes being
: married and having a daughter by some unnamed woman wouldn’t be
: restricted. As such it makes more sense that there was an effort to keep
: the issue of Keyes’ wife or lover, by whom he had a child, secret. If the
: mother was a meaningless character, there’d be little reason for this.
: Regardless of how people in the military talk of family, it seems odd that
: one of the most important characters wouldn’t be said to be married. Why
: would Keyes being married and having a daughter be of concern? Certainly
: not many would jump to assume that would ever be a factor like Miranda
: was. It seems more likely that Dr. Halsey would be the mother in order to
: keep it secret. I’m guessing that might be a factor later on. This also
: would be kept fairly secret just because it would distract from the actual
: story. Plus, being a child of Keyes and Halsey would certainly be a red
: flag to people that Miranda would play a major part.

: Now, in Halo 2 there are, not really hints, but indicators that Miranda is
: Keyes and Halsey’s child. The first is the circumstances of Miranda’s
: acceptance of the award for Captain Keyes posthumously. Traditionally, the
: entire family is present. More importantly, the award would likely be
: given to the oldest child. So why is it only Miranda is present to accept
: the award? Where’s Keyes’ wife or his other kids? Are we supposed to
: assume that he got married and only had one child and a girl at that? Or
: are we supposed to assume the rest of the family is dead or just can’t be
: called to the Cairo? Regardless of circumstances, this wouldn’t make much
: sense all together. Miranda was clearly chosen to accept the award, which
: would make little sense unless she was the only living child.

: While tradition demands one thing, the regulations don’t. Regulation on
: posthumous awards simply states that the President decides who accepts the
: award. In other words, the leader of the nation or, in this case,
: interstellar empire will pick the recipient. So, why pick Miranda? If a
: son was also alive and especially if he were a naval officer as well, he’d
: likely be the one to receive the award. Since Miranda accepts it leads us
: to believe there is no son. We’re especially led to believe this as no
: brother appears to be present at the ceremony. In order for Keyes to be
: Miranda’s father he would have at least had to have been married for 30+
: years. For some reason we’re to assume that Keyes was married to a woman
: for 30+ years and only had one child. I’d say that if Miranda didn’t
: belong to Halsey and Keyes that would mean Keyes was married, yet no
: evidence is there.

: The second thing that indicates a relationship is Miranda’s appearance. Most
: human characters minor or otherwise, have a distinct look in the game,
: from facial appearance to eye color and to hair color. So Miranda’s
: appearance would be given even more choice. Rather interesting that they
: chose to give Miranda dark hair, blue eyes, and the general physical
: appearance Cortana has as well. Cortana’s bodily image is constructed
: loosely after Dr. Halsey’s and so the similarity in body structure can’t
: be ignored. Having such clear traits belonging to Dr. Halsey is kind of
: odd. If they were trying to ignore the implication there, Miranda would
: have no such traits.

: Of course, this doesn’t explain some questions about the relationship. Many
: questions involve Miranda having to know, somehow, who her parents
: actually are. This never indicated to be true. It’s only made apparent
: that Miranda knew who her father was at the beginning of Halo 2. The
: important thing to remember is the timeline. Master Chief’s arrival at
: Earth would be about 36 or 35 days before the events of Halo 2. Without
: doubt a briefing would be rather immediate. An unimaginable amount of
: knowledge garnered on the Covenant since Reach and a whole lot of
: engineers. News of Captain Keyes’ death would be quickly spread. Who’s to
: say it wasn’t then that she learned Captain Keyes was her father or maybe
: just after Sigma Octanus? She could have then been told or got curious and
: had a genetic test. I would personally say it was Sigma Octanus and that
: would give her plenty of time to get a genetic test, change her name and
: so forth. She could easily have never known him and would then have the
: interest she did. This could also explain the close relationship between
: Master Chief and Miranda Keyes. After all, if she didn’t know Captain
: Keyes, then Master Chief would certainly be a person to ask. Most people
: who would know him enough to say anything about him would probably be dead
: or somewhere else. Even if she knew her father was Captain Keyes long
: before this wouldn’t exclude the possibility that she hadn’t always known.

: The point is that we have no reason to assume anyone actually knew of the
: relationship at any point in time. In fact, Miranda may still not know who
: her mother was. There’s even a chance Captain Keyes didn’t know and simply
: found out Miranda was his kid or maybe never found out. There’s no reason
: to believe either actually raised Miranda. It would be easy to assume Dr.
: Halsey just sent Miranda to some relatives or friends on Earth, perhaps
: her parents. This allows for Dr. Halsey to have a substantial amount of
: time during the Halo timeline in which to bear a child, give birth, and
: even raise her a few years. Dr. Halsey could have sent Miranda to Earth to
: be raised and live, in fact, she could have easily been born there.

: Her reasoning for this would be pretty simple; she wouldn’t want certain
: people to know of this. Certainly Colonel Ackerson would use this against
: her. They might not approve of her mission to find the Covenant home
: planet if it came out that the same person she was suggesting to captain
: the ship for the mission was the same one that knocked her up. Regardless
: of reputation they may not approve of what would appear to be favoritism.
: There are other ways Colonel Ackerson or others with reason would use this
: against her. It wouldn’t exactly be hard to drop someone from the navy or
: make someone’s economic situation less-than-favorable when you’re a person
: like Ackerson. Dr. Halsey would certainly not want to endanger either
: Captain Keyes or Miranda so she would try and go about the relationship as
: quietly as possible. Imagine Padme and Anakin without all the
: Dawson’s-Creek romantic drama action.

: Under these guises it would not be entirely unbelievable to see a long
: persisting relationship between Keyes and Dr. Halsey, even up to the end
: of Fall of Reach. Dr. Halsey could go on a “mission” that just happened to
: take her to a ship Keyes was on. She could take leave for meeting with
: “family” or “old friends” to visit Miranda. Granted, this wouldn’t exactly
: be secretive if she did it frequently, but it would be a lot harder to
: know what she was doing if she went about it right.

: So Dr. Halsey being the mother, let alone having a persistent relationship or
: even being married to Captain Keyes cannot be entirely left out or maybe
: not even be seriously questioned. Lacking knowledge of any alternative
: parent, having little reason to believe Keyes had any relationship with
: any other woman, given all the openings in the story, and the many
: undertones suggesting a long relationship, it’s very likely Dr. Halsey and
: Keyes had a very deep relationship and actually had Miranda together. Then
: again, maybe I’m just speculating too much.


Message Index




Replies:

Is Miranda Dr. Halsey's Daughter?Dark One 9/18/05 11:28 p.m.
     Very nicely thought out. I applaud the effort. *NM*Simpsons Rule 9/19/05 12:28 a.m.
     Amazing! A wonderful feat of research.Ross Mills [subnova] 9/19/05 5:52 a.m.
           Re: Amazing! A wonderful feat of research.Dark One 9/19/05 9:09 p.m.
     Amazing!Piggino 9/19/05 6:44 a.m.
     Re: Is Miranda Dr. Halsey's Daughter?Dagorath 9/19/05 7:14 a.m.
           Awesome research... Dagorath u hater! :PJammerfer 9/19/05 8:14 a.m.
                 Dagorath has a point...it could be unintentional *NM*tsuranuku 9/19/05 10:46 a.m.
           He said "Cleaverer" lol *NM* *NM*Maximus 9/19/05 10:09 a.m.
           Differing tastes...*THASF* A.K.A. The Halo And Sonic Fan 9/19/05 4:13 p.m.
           Re: Is Miranda Dr. Halsey's Daughter?InnerRayg 9/19/05 5:00 p.m.
           Re: Is Miranda Dr. Halsey's Daughter?Dark One 9/19/05 8:13 p.m.
                 Re: Is Miranda Dr. Halsey's Daughter?Sith 9/21/05 10:59 a.m.
                       Re: Is Miranda Dr. Halsey's Daughter?*THASF* A.K.A. The Halo And Sonic Fan 9/21/05 9:23 p.m.
     Makes me want to re-read the books - thanks! *NM*3Suns 9/19/05 7:33 a.m.
     And I thought I had spare time....Hikaru-119 9/19/05 8:22 a.m.
           Re: And I thought I had spare time....Dark One 9/19/05 9:12 p.m.
     Outta' the way, Dr. Phil! ;P *NM*Calvin Chaos 9/19/05 8:25 a.m.
     Re: Is Miranda Dr. Halsey's Daughter?Miguel Chavez 9/19/05 8:50 a.m.
           I'm sure it's time for Shishka to say "Your mom." *NM*Stuntmutt 9/19/05 8:54 a.m.
                 Re: I'm sure it's time for - agreed...vshields ash 9/19/05 9:03 a.m.
                       Re: I'm sure it's time for - agreed...gspawn 9/19/05 12:59 p.m.
                             Re: I'm sure it's time for - agreed...Dark One 9/19/05 8:46 p.m.
                       Re: I'm sure it's time for - agreed...Dark One 9/19/05 8:31 p.m.
                 Quote doesn't necessarily imply wifeAscendancy 9/19/05 8:28 p.m.
                       Re: Quote doesn't necessarily imply wifeDark One 9/19/05 9:04 p.m.
                             Re: Quote doesn't necessarily imply wifeBoney526 9/20/05 12:29 p.m.
           Re: Is Miranda Dr. Halsey's Daughter?mercury 9/19/05 11:34 a.m.
                 Re: Is Miranda Dr. Halsey's Daughter?Endbringer 9/19/05 12:23 p.m.
           Re: Is Miranda Dr. Halsey's Daughter?Hawaiian Pig 9/19/05 1:53 p.m.
                 Re: Is Miranda Dr. Halsey's Daughter?Dark One 9/19/05 8:50 p.m.
           Re: Is Miranda Dr. Halsey's Daughter?Dark One 9/19/05 8:20 p.m.
                 Re: Is Miranda Dr. Halsey's Daughter?Miguel Chavez 9/20/05 8:33 a.m.
     Pure Brilliant Psycology *NM* *NM*omnistegan 9/19/05 1:42 p.m.
     Re: Is Miranda Dr. Halsey's Daughter?Echoes 9/19/05 2:10 p.m.
     And don't forget they look alike *NM*Sniper 058 9/19/05 2:53 p.m.
           It Makes SenseGrey Fox 9/19/05 4:12 p.m.
                 Re: It Makes SenseAlbalester 9/19/05 5:57 p.m.
                       Re: It Makes SenseDark One 9/19/05 8:03 p.m.
                       Re: It Makes Sensebickers117 9/20/05 12:37 a.m.
     Re: Is Miranda Dr. Halsey's Daughter?Alexis 9/19/05 10:57 p.m.
     My thoughts...and great theory...Calliope 9/20/05 1:59 a.m.
     Re: Is Miranda Dr. Halsey's Daughter?Pico 9/20/05 2:48 a.m.
     Re: Is Miranda Dr. Halsey's Daughter?Tweek 9/20/05 3:25 a.m.
     Re: Is Miranda Dr. Halsey's Daughter? *NM*Red_Breast 9/20/05 6:38 a.m.
     Re: Is Miranda Dr. Halsey's Daughter?Red_Breast 9/20/05 6:42 a.m.
     Re: Is Miranda Dr. Halsey's Daughter?StratFrets89 9/20/05 7:47 p.m.
     Great read! *NM*Djof 9/20/05 7:57 p.m.
     Awesome analysis. *NM*Ursus in H 9/21/05 8:16 a.m.



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