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Re: New Building = Good
Posted By: Cannibal Harry =PN= <cannibalharry@paxnimbus.com>Date: 9/19/00 10:47 a.m.

In Response To: New Building = Good (Pallor =PN=)

> You know, when your workers are in a great facility they tend to
> work better and are happier. When a large corporation builds
> something and moves people, the people that are moved in are
> usually seamlessly inserted. The goal here is to have the
> comfiest environment for the workers so a quality product is
> made. (Ill offer most dot coms as examples, including mine - we
> get comfy spaces so we work harder and longer.)

> Perhaps you need to head back to business class and learn about
> the proper way to deal with people when you want to get
> something. Microsoft isnt stupid. They know how to treat the
> people that matter for goal achievements.

>-Meg

Having worked in the business longer than our pal Pallor, I
feel the need to interject a little world-weariness into her
new .com optimism.

Sure new, comfy spaces make a difference and sure good companies
deal with their people well. You miss one thing in that equation,
the monolithic corporate factor. Big corporations tend to care a
whole lot less about their individual employees, and on a larger
scale, sometimes entire projects. If it's not a make or break thing,
then sometimes that "treatment of people for goal achievements" falls by the wayside.

I'm not saying it's happened here, and from the sound of Matt's postage it hasn't. (Although some of the drones did get a little
snippy, but I digress) Let's just hope it stays that way. Is MS
stupid? As a whole, no. (Although, with products like WinME, I'm
tempted to change my mind) But they are large enough that stupidity
can happen in many quarters without the greater company knowing or
even caring.

CH

"I am Jack's .com and monolithic corporate experience..."


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Frightful news out of Redmondcan't say 9/16/00 6:43 p.m.
     Re: Frightful news out of RedmondForensic 9/16/00 7:05 p.m.
           Re: Frightful news out of RedmondCyberBob =PN= 9/16/00 7:16 p.m.
                 Re: Frightful news out of RedmondCNSTANTNE MOG 9/16/00 7:31 p.m.
                 Re: Frightful news out of RedmondForensic 9/16/00 7:57 p.m.
                       Re: Frightful news out of RedmondCannibal Harry =PN= 9/17/00 3:01 a.m.
                             Re: Frightful news out of RedmondForensic 9/17/00 2:03 p.m.
                                   of Sharks and RamoraPico 9/17/00 3:44 p.m.
                                         Remora -nt-mattd 9/17/00 4:08 p.m.
                                   Re: Frightful news out of RedmondTyrbiter 9/17/00 9:06 p.m.
                                         Re: Frightful news out of Redmondedge 9/18/00 7:52 a.m.
                                               Personnel v. AssetsNarcogen =PN= 9/19/00 4:31 a.m.
                                                     Re: Personnel v. Assetsedge 9/19/00 9:45 a.m.
                                   Re: Frightful news out of RedmondCannibal Harry =PN= 9/18/00 1:20 a.m.
                                         Stripper in a giant cake? (NT)Forensic 9/18/00 6:10 p.m.
                                               heh, better (NT)Cannibal Harry =PN= 9/18/00 9:11 p.m.
           Re: Frightful news out of Redmondcan't say 9/16/00 11:52 p.m.
                 Re: Frightful news out of RedmondMaestro 9/17/00 1:27 a.m.
                 Re: Frightful news out of RedmondDan Rudolph 9/17/00 3:13 a.m.
                 Your information is more hurtful than helpfulPallor =PN= 9/18/00 3:19 p.m.
     What The hell? I dont believe!The Mad Bob 9/16/00 7:09 p.m.
     Louis? IP check?Mark Levin 9/16/00 7:21 p.m.
     Louis? IP check? (NT)Mark Levin 9/16/00 7:21 p.m.
           Re: Louis? IP check? (NT)Louis Wu 9/16/00 8:30 p.m.
                 Re: Louis? IP check? (NT)Maestro 9/17/00 12:57 a.m.
                 UhhhPallor =PN= 9/17/00 3:55 p.m.
                       Uhhh?Forensic 9/17/00 4:25 p.m.
                             There are a few ex employees...Pallor =PN= 9/17/00 5:52 p.m.
                                   Re: There are a few ex employees...Forensic 9/17/00 7:05 p.m.
                                         I am not and have never been employed by Bungiecan't say 9/17/00 7:55 p.m.
                                               Re: I am not and have never been employed by BungiDan Rudolph 9/18/00 1:57 a.m.
                                                     Re: I am not and have never been employed by Bungiedge 9/18/00 7:10 a.m.
                                                           Re: I am not and have never been employed by BungiBloodrain 9/19/00 11:58 a.m.
                                         Re: There are a few ex employees...Louis Wu 9/17/00 8:04 p.m.
                                               Re: There are a few ex employees...Dan Rudolph 9/18/00 12:25 a.m.
                       Re: UhhhDan Rudolph 9/17/00 6:13 p.m.
                       Re: UhhhLouis Wu 9/17/00 7:59 p.m.
                             Re: Uhhhedge 9/18/00 7:04 a.m.
     Re: Frightful news out of RedmondMaestro 9/16/00 8:21 p.m.
           give too much?Chris Bisoski 9/18/00 10:38 p.m.
                 New Building = GoodPallor =PN= 9/19/00 9:38 a.m.
                       Re: New Building = GoodBr'fin 9/19/00 10:36 a.m.
                       Re: New Building = GoodCannibal Harry =PN= 9/19/00 10:47 a.m.
                             Well...I disagree (what a shock)Pallor =PN= 9/19/00 10:52 a.m.
                                   Re: Well...I disagree (what a shock)Cannibal Harry =PN= 9/19/00 11:00 a.m.
                                         Its all that I expected and morePallor =PN= 9/19/00 11:39 a.m.
                                               Re: Its all that I expected and moreLouis Wu 9/19/00 1:35 p.m.
                                                     Re: Its all that I expected and moreCannibal Harry =PN= 9/19/00 1:42 p.m.
                                                           So then...Pallor =PN= 9/19/00 1:58 p.m.
                                                                 ::Pulls the wrinkle cream closer::Louis Wu 9/19/00 2:06 p.m.
                                                                       Re: ::Pulls the wrinkle cream closer::SiliconDream =PN= 9/19/00 6:16 p.m.
                                                                             That's probably it. (nt)Louis Wu 9/19/00 7:21 p.m.
                                                                             Re: ::Pulls the wrinkle cream closer::Mark Levin 9/19/00 9:09 p.m.
                                                                                   Who the hell is Will Rogers? [nt]Pallor =PN= 9/20/00 9:01 a.m.
                                                                                         Re: Who the hell is Will Rogers? [nt]Louis Wu 9/20/00 9:17 a.m.
                                                                                               Re: Who the hell is Will Rogers? [nt]Cannibal Harry =PN= 9/20/00 2:32 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: ::Pulls the wrinkle cream closer::SiliconDream =PN= 9/20/00 11:12 a.m.
                                                                                         Re: ::Pulls the wrinkle cream closer::mnemesis 9/20/00 11:33 a.m.
                                                                                         Re: ::Pulls the wrinkle cream closer::Mark Levin 9/20/00 12:25 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: ::Pulls the wrinkle cream closer::SiliconDream =PN= 9/20/00 6:22 p.m.
                             correctionCyberBob =PN= 9/19/00 10:53 a.m.
     Re: Frightful news out of RedmondDan Rudolph 9/16/00 8:37 p.m.
     Duh!CyberBob =PN= 9/17/00 4:03 p.m.
           CorrectionPallor =PN= 9/17/00 4:05 p.m.
                 problemsCyberBob =PN= 9/17/00 4:14 p.m.
                 Re: CorrectionDan Rudolph 9/17/00 4:21 p.m.
                 Re: CorrectionMatt 9/18/00 1:57 p.m.
                       And about halo being scaled back?mattd 9/18/00 5:18 p.m.
                             Re: And about halo being scaled back?Matt 9/18/00 6:58 p.m.
                                   ah. but...mattd 9/18/00 8:26 p.m.
                                         Re: ah. but...Mark Levin 9/18/00 8:56 p.m.
                                   Re: And about halo being scaled back?Dan Rudolph 9/18/00 8:46 p.m.
                                   One thing...Picky 9/18/00 8:57 p.m.
                                         Lol, woopsPicky 9/18/00 8:57 p.m.
                                               Re: Lol, woopsDa Pacifist 9/19/00 5:08 a.m.
                                                     Re: Lol, woopsone who knows 9/19/00 2:31 p.m.
                                                     Re: Lol, woopsPicky 9/20/00 3:45 p.m.
                                         Re: One thing...Lukifer 9/19/00 3:51 p.m.
                                               Bah...Cannibal Harry =PN= 9/19/00 4:21 p.m.
                                                     Re: Bah...Smokey 9/19/00 4:25 p.m.
                                                     Cyclopean! Cyclopean![nt]SiliconDream =PN= 9/19/00 6:11 p.m.
                                                           And let's not forget ELDRITCH! (NT)Mark Levin 9/19/00 6:16 p.m.
                                                                 Re: And let's not forget ELDRITCH! (NT)balance 9/20/00 10:09 a.m.
                                                                       Re: And let's not forget ELDRITCH! (NT)SiliconDream =PN= 9/20/00 11:13 a.m.
                                                                             Re: And let's not forget ELDRITCH! (NT)Dan Rudolph 9/20/00 11:26 a.m.
                                                                                   Oh really...?Picky 9/20/00 3:58 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: Oh really...?Dan Rudolph 9/20/00 5:03 p.m.
                                                                                               ::agrees with both::SiliconDream =PN= 9/20/00 6:13 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: Slanderous Filth!Nate H. 9/20/00 8:52 p.m.
                                                                             Re: And let's not forget ELDRITCH! (NT)balance 9/21/00 10:42 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: And let's not forget ELDRITCH! (NT)SiliconDream =PN= 9/21/00 2:19 p.m.
                                         Re: One thing...GoNad 9/19/00 10:02 p.m.
                                               Re: One thing...Picky 9/20/00 3:50 p.m.
                                         Re: One thing...Forensic 9/19/00 11:54 p.m.
                                               Re: One thing...Picky 9/20/00 3:46 p.m.
                                   Ship IT!Lorin Rivers 9/19/00 3:33 p.m.
                                   Re: And about halo being scaled back?L Naidoo 9/19/00 9:13 p.m.
                                   So Give Us Some Screenshots!!!!! (NT)Ape Man 9/19/00 9:25 p.m.
                                   That reminds me...Forensic 9/19/00 11:21 p.m.
                                         Re: That reminds me...Matt 9/20/00 11:32 a.m.



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