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Re: The Grunts and their rebellion
Posted By: freakctc79 <freakctc@yahoo.com>Date: 2/24/05 6:44 p.m.

In Response To: The Grunts and their rebellion (Graeme)

: Hi gang, new to the HALO world, long time fan of the Bungie stuff. Long live
: Durandal.

: I was thinking the other day, while reading through the story page, and
: talking with some friends, that the Grunt rebellion might have been more
: than everyone seems to think. Sure, the Grunts are tiny useless cowards
: now--but maybe that's because they were otherwise untenable?

: See, in thinking about the Prophets, and their many ways of
: subjugation--through coercion, conquest or other means we might not even
: know, why wouldn't it include some type of genetic modification or in-bred
: addiction to a drug? Anyone ever wonder why they're the only covies who
: wear rebreathers? I found it interesting to note that the 'heretic' Grunts
: still had the masks, but instead of the typical hermit-crab shells they
: wore, it appeared as though they were simply wearing two atmospheric tanks
: of some sort.

: Imagine, if you will, a swarm of...let's say 10 grunts. Grunts who are
: fearless, who don't worry about dying when they see the guy next to them
: die. What would happen if you couldn't scare the weapon off of them just
: by saying "boo" when there are countless other guards around?
: They'd be a whole lot more powerful than they are now, that's what. So
: what if they are the way they are because they once rebelled?

: Once, they held a position not unlike that of the Elites--a powerful warrior
: race, not by strength of muscles, or by warrior skill, but by strength of
: numbers! They decided, one day, that their numbers alone were stronger
: than that of the entire covenant. Rising up against those who would claim
: to be their betters, only to be put down by an Arbiter of the prophets.
: Would you leave such a powerful enemy lying at your back? I know I
: wouldn't. So now, the Grunts are weakened, pitiful, afraid.

: Just a thought that ran through my head the other day. So what do you
: think--holes the size of swiss cheeze, or Mack Trucks [in that little
: tale]? It's too late for me to really decide. I leave it in your most
: capable hands.

I think the 'grunt rebellion' is actually propaganda by the prophets to make the elites seem 'respected and appreciated', when in fact, the Arbiter was sent to conquer the grunts, and make them part of the covenant. The grunts fear the Elites, and therefore would side with them.
i believe there is also mention about the hunters..the taming of the hunters i believe.. also done by an elite arbiter. And I found it a little odd that the grunts and hunters became covenant and the arbiters who did such acts died in the process...if they died in the process, then how did the events occur? If the arbiters died after the events, then it makes sense. the goal was achieved. Anybody follwing this train of thought?
the prophets are liars. they use the fear that the grunts (And possibly hunters) harbor for the elites to keep them in line, and they lie to the elites to keep everything together. The jackals, brutes and bugs side with the prophets, and from my recollections, none of those races were conquered by an arbiter. I could be wrong..and that wouldn't surprise me. Just some thoughts.


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The Grunts and their rebellionGraeme 2/21/05 4:50 a.m.
     Re: The Grunts and their rebellionmooniejohnson 2/21/05 5:14 a.m.
           Re: The Grunts and their rebellionCuda II 2/21/05 8:07 a.m.
     Re: The Grunts and their rebellionkeeper of the holy light 2/21/05 8:08 a.m.
     Re: The Grunts and their rebellionWalshicus 2/21/05 8:46 a.m.
           Re: The Grunts and their rebellionSir Jivealot 2/21/05 11:49 a.m.
     Difference between a fearless grunt and bigfoot?Kraken 2/21/05 9:04 a.m.
           Re: Difference between a fearless grunt and bigfooDr.Strangelove 2/21/05 9:45 a.m.
     Re: The Grunts and their rebellionselmack 2/21/05 10:29 a.m.
           Re: The Grunts and their rebelliondeathpig 2/21/05 11:02 a.m.
                 Re: The Grunts and their rebellionselmack 2/21/05 11:22 a.m.
                       Re: The Grunts and their rebellionSir Jivealot 2/21/05 11:51 a.m.
                             Re: The Grunts and their rebellionWalshicus 2/21/05 12:14 p.m.
                                   Re: The Grunts and their rebelliondude1 2/21/05 12:28 p.m.
                                   Re: The Grunts and their rebellionHikaru-119 2/21/05 12:42 p.m.
                                         Damage in the booksEarthScorpion 2/21/05 3:13 p.m.
                                               Re: Damage in the booksHikaru-119 2/21/05 3:32 p.m.
                                         Re: The Grunts and their rebellionPeptuck 2/21/05 3:16 p.m.
                                   the grunt rebellionzander 2/23/05 9:03 p.m.
                                         Re: the grunt rebellionHikaru-119 2/23/05 9:04 p.m.
                                               Re: the grunt rebellionVirus_232 2/23/05 9:09 p.m.
                                                     Re: the grunt rebellionJillybean 2/24/05 8:28 a.m.
                                   Re: The Grunts and their rebellionblitz_raven 2/25/05 1:37 p.m.
                                         Re: The Grunts and their rebellionSep7imus [subnova] 2/25/05 1:58 p.m.
                                               Re: The Grunts and their rebellionDevil Mingy 2/25/05 3:02 p.m.
     Re: The Grunts and their rebellionMichael B 2/21/05 4:07 p.m.
           Re: The Grunts and their rebellion58 2/21/05 4:37 p.m.
     Re: The Grunts and their rebellion58 2/21/05 4:31 p.m.
           Grunt's are cool!!!H3WH01SNT 2/21/05 4:49 p.m.
                 Re: Grunt's are cool!!!Harpu 2/21/05 6:29 p.m.
     meanwhile, back at Bungie..:)Bigjooj 2/22/05 1:07 a.m.
           Grunty thirst!Morgalad 2/22/05 6:26 a.m.
                 Re: Grunty thirst!Harpu 2/22/05 3:24 p.m.
                       Re: Grunty thirst!Dillo 2/28/05 4:17 p.m.
                             Re: Grunty thirst or grunty dependence...JanusSyndicate 2/28/05 5:12 p.m.
                                   Re: Grunty thirst or grunty dependence...Dillo 2/28/05 5:37 p.m.
                                         Re: Grunty thirst or grunty dependence...JanusSyndicate 2/28/05 9:53 p.m.
                 Re: Grunty thirst!Graeme 2/22/05 5:46 p.m.
                 The Arbiter of Grunt-domWavehawk 2/23/05 12:56 a.m.
                       Re: The Arbiter of Grunt-domHarpu 2/23/05 3:29 p.m.
                             Re: The Arbiter of Grunt-domHyperdeath 2/23/05 10:53 p.m.
                             Re: The Arbiter of Grunt-domWavehawk 2/23/05 11:13 p.m.
                                   Re: The Arbiter of Grunt-domHarpu 2/24/05 11:32 a.m.
                                         Re: The Arbiter of Grunt-domGryphonOsiris 2/24/05 1:17 p.m.
                                               Re: The Arbiter of Grunt-domHarpu 2/24/05 3:30 p.m.
                                                     Damage in books-- Nylund exxageratesMarineCorps117 2/24/05 6:10 p.m.
                                                           Re: Damage in books-- Nylund exxageratesGraeme 2/24/05 6:12 p.m.
                                                     Re: The Arbiter of Grunt-domStinger503 2/25/05 10:12 p.m.
           Re: meanwhile, back at Bungie..:) *slightly OT*Dillo 2/28/05 3:51 p.m.
                 Re: meanwhile, back at Bungie..:) *slightly OT*Jillybean 2/28/05 4:01 p.m.
                       Re: meanwhile, back at Bungie..:) *slightly OT*Dillo 2/28/05 4:12 p.m.
                             Re: meanwhile, back at Bungie..:) *slightly OT*Jillybean 2/28/05 4:38 p.m.
     Re: The Grunts and their rebellionfreakctc79 2/24/05 6:44 p.m.
           Re: The Grunts and their rebellionHarpu 2/24/05 7:42 p.m.
                 Re: The Grunts and their rebellionMarineCorps117 2/25/05 10:40 a.m.
                       Re: The Grunts and their rebellionHarpu 2/25/05 12:08 p.m.
                             Re: The Grunts and their rebellionHyperdeath 2/25/05 2:54 p.m.
     An obvious solution ;)Sly_Avatar 2/25/05 6:23 p.m.
           Re: An obvious solution ;)Harpu 2/25/05 8:37 p.m.
     Grunts = Conscript army in a caste systemWado SG 2/26/05 7:18 a.m.
           Killing easy grunts makes us keep playing!7Geeks_ravns 2/26/05 7:25 a.m.
           Re: Grunts = Conscript army in a caste systemSniping Steve 2/26/05 8:42 a.m.
                 Re: Grunts = Conscript army in a caste systemHikaru-119 2/26/05 8:47 a.m.
                       Re: Grunts = Conscript army in a caste systemSniping Steve 2/26/05 5:56 p.m.
                       Re: Grunts = Conscript army in a caste systemPeptuck 2/28/05 12:55 p.m.
                             Re: Grunts = Conscript army in a caste systemGomez27 2/28/05 1:08 p.m.
           i smell fan fic.... *NM*ONI_operative_343 2/26/05 10:47 a.m.
           Re: Grunts = Conscript army in a caste systemdude1 2/26/05 11:05 a.m.
                 Re: Grunts = Conscript army in a caste systemDave The Slushy 2/27/05 2:21 a.m.
           Re: Grunts = Conscript army in a caste systemSly_Avatar 2/26/05 12:57 p.m.
     Re: The Grunts and their rebellionMaster quich 2/28/05 6:41 a.m.
           Re: The Grunts and their rebellionGomez27 2/28/05 10:28 a.m.
                 Re: The Grunts and their rebellion58 2/28/05 10:33 a.m.
                       Re: The Grunts and their rebellionGomez27 2/28/05 1:05 p.m.
                             Re: The Grunts and their rebellionOzzis 2/28/05 4:10 p.m.
                                   Re: The Grunts and their rebellion58 2/28/05 4:15 p.m.
                                         Re: The Grunts and their rebellionSeries III (MetalSilver) 2/28/05 4:23 p.m.
                                               Re: The Grunts and their rebellion58 2/28/05 4:27 p.m.
                                                     Re: The Grunts and their rebellionSeries III (MetalSilver) 2/28/05 7:26 p.m.
                                                           Re: The Grunts and their rebellion58 2/28/05 7:38 p.m.



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