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Re: Forgot to mention...
Posted By: chaotic_mindDate: 7/2/04 6:09 p.m.

In Response To: Forgot to mention... (SOA)

: Oh yeah, one more thing, about 343GS engineering the Flood, I thought that
: the Halos were made AFTER the Flood appeared? They were made to study and
: combat it. You can assume that a Monitor of the installation would be made
: when the Halo was being built, not that long before it. There was no
: reason for him to exist before Halo 04, and there was no reason for Halo
: 04 before the Flood, or at least that's what we're led to believe. So
: technically, the Monitor is the (indirect) result of the Flood, not the
: other way around.

: With the slim chance he was around before Halo, making the Flood would cause
: the Halos to be built, and that would be his new job, which he obviously
: didn't like: watching a weapon for presumably the rest of eternity. And
: that job would continue forever, unless some crazy cyborg were to just
: blow it up (how in the world could that happen?).

He mentions that "this installation" was made to combat the Flood. And he also mentions that "this installation's pulse has a maximum effective radius of twenty-five thousand light years." But this also the author of this crystal clear statement, "The installation was specifically built to study and contain the Flood. Their survival as a race was dependent upon it." It seems to me, that their is some doubt as whether the antecendent of their is the Forerunner or the Flood. So, I'm not sure we can trust that 343 GS is refering to the same "installation" when he speaks.

After all, why build an variety of ecosystem to study one creature? There is some point to the fact of the Flood's danger making them important enough to warrant the extra life on board Halo. Still, to test the Floods effects on the environment and life of Halo's various environments would consitute, in my mind, an "catastrophic outbreak". If Halo was one big laboratory for just the Flood, it would be difficult to contain the Flood in just one section. What's to prevent them from spreading to other parts of the ring? And, if their is something to contain them for experimentation, why didn't we use it to contain the Flood?

My thought is that, yes, Halo is or once was a laboratory. It was built to help the Forerunner understand how ecosystems work. I would think an understanding of how life works on a planetary scale would help interplanetary civilization colonize new worlds with little muss or fuss.

I think something disatrous happened to the Forerunner. Possibly the release of the Flood, but I think the Forerunner might've been able to manage that conflict with their level of technology. After all, given a little bit of luck and way more resources then they had on Halo, I think the UNSC could manage a Flood outbreak without the destruction of all life in the galaxy. (Though, perhaps the Flood were not up to their full strength after awaking from hibernation and not at their full intelligence on Halo 04.) I have recently become attached to the idea that the Forerunner experienced social collapse as they reached the end of easily habitable worlds. Basically, the Forerunner reached a point where their civilization was growing too fast, and consuming too many resources to ensure that all within the Forerunner got what they needed. Basically, presented with this, centralized culture and government failed within the Forerunner. In this time of civil war, Halo was turned into a "fortress world". The Flood were released, but could not be stopped. And so the Forerunner fell.

Luke P.


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The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)yakaman 6/27/04 2:22 p.m.
     The above is long, REAL long. *NM*DragonReborn 6/27/04 2:24 p.m.
     None...I like it. *NM*Marcus 6/27/04 2:25 p.m.
           Ditto. *NM*Blitzwolf 6/27/04 2:47 p.m.
     Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Ninja Steve 6/27/04 2:51 p.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)wmaltby 6/27/04 3:30 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Elf Lord 6/27/04 3:58 p.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)chaotic_mind 6/27/04 5:01 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Nondre 6/27/04 5:06 p.m.
                       Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Zaknafein 6/28/04 11:17 a.m.
                       Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Lone Sniper SG 7/12/04 9:02 p.m.
                             Hey, back it up...Mr.Mongoose 7/12/04 9:28 p.m.
                                   Re: Hey, back it up...mnemesis 7/12/04 10:11 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Zaknafein 6/28/04 11:15 a.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)th3ranger 6/30/04 10:52 p.m.
                       Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Matfield 7/1/04 10:42 p.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Zealous 6/29/04 12:44 a.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)aznthunder 6/29/04 1:41 a.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Alf-Life 7/11/04 11:11 a.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Vitron 7/11/04 12:44 p.m.
                 It's a novel!yakaman 7/11/04 12:46 p.m.
     Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Louis Wu 6/27/04 3:35 p.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Mr. Mojo Risin 6/27/04 4:19 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)wmaltby 6/27/04 4:20 p.m.
                       Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)a Bomb 7/12/04 8:43 p.m.
                             Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Lone Sniper SG 7/12/04 8:54 p.m.
                                   Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Pak 7/12/04 9:04 p.m.
                             Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Pak 7/12/04 9:00 p.m.
                                   Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)a Bomb 7/12/04 9:07 p.m.
                                         and I'm NOT one of them :P *NM*a Bomb 7/12/04 9:09 p.m.
                                         Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Pak 7/12/04 9:19 p.m.
                                               Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)a Bomb 7/12/04 9:38 p.m.
                                               Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)scorpionx7 7/12/04 11:18 p.m.
                             A fun idea but you forgot its "local years"Gundulf 7/12/04 9:23 p.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Sep7imus [subnova] 6/27/04 5:05 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Pico 6/27/04 5:13 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Wado SG 6/27/04 5:16 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Zaknafein 6/28/04 11:21 a.m.
                       Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)cyberdude21 7/28/04 10:36 p.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 6/27/04 5:13 p.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)yakaman 6/27/04 8:14 p.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Zaknafein 6/28/04 11:37 a.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)th3ranger 6/30/04 11:03 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)a Bomb 7/12/04 8:51 p.m.
                       Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Pak 7/12/04 8:56 p.m.
                             Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)a Bomb 7/12/04 8:59 p.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Steve Ollett 7/1/04 3:13 a.m.
     Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Nondre 6/27/04 5:07 p.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 6/27/04 5:18 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Nondre 6/27/04 5:23 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Louis Wu 6/27/04 8:52 p.m.
                       Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 6/27/04 9:52 p.m.
     I notice one major flawToddzilla 6/27/04 7:32 p.m.
           Re: I notice one major flawchaotic_mind 6/27/04 8:05 p.m.
                 Re: I notice one major flawToddzilla 6/27/04 8:14 p.m.
                       Re: I notice one major flawchaotic_mind 6/27/04 8:19 p.m.
                             Re: I notice one major flawyakaman 6/27/04 8:26 p.m.
                                   Re: I notice one major flawSaint 6/27/04 10:21 p.m.
                 Re: I notice one major flawyakaman 6/27/04 8:35 p.m.
                 Re: I notice one major flawSaint 6/27/04 10:13 p.m.
           Re: I notice one major flawyakaman 6/27/04 8:23 p.m.
     heres my problem..Zaknafein 6/28/04 12:09 p.m.
           Re: heres my problem..yakaman 6/28/04 5:35 p.m.
                 Re: heres my problem..Timmay 6/28/04 7:56 p.m.
                 Re: heres my problem..Karellen Lurksalot 6/29/04 4:31 a.m.
                       Re: heres my problem..Zaknafein 6/29/04 11:09 a.m.
                             Re: heres my problem..Karellen Lurksalot 6/29/04 12:23 p.m.
                                   Re: heres my problem..Louis Wu 6/29/04 12:32 p.m.
                                         Re: heres my problem..Karellen Lurksalot 6/29/04 1:58 p.m.
                                               Re: heres my problem..Rampant Cowboy 6/29/04 5:16 p.m.
                                               Re: heres my problem..ThorsHammer 6/29/04 9:48 p.m.
                                                     Re: heres my problem..Karellen Lurksalot 6/30/04 4:52 a.m.
                                   Re: heres my problem..Zaknafein 6/29/04 3:35 p.m.
                             DNA isn't enough to revive a species.LietLives 6/29/04 11:36 p.m.
                 Re: heres my problem..Steve Ollett 7/1/04 3:22 a.m.
           Speculation. Very Rampant. Warning, Long Post.chaotic_mind 6/29/04 5:57 a.m.
           Re: heres my problem..Wado SG 6/29/04 11:32 p.m.
                 Re: heres my problem..LietLives 6/30/04 12:03 a.m.
           Re: heres my problem..a Bomb 7/12/04 9:27 p.m.
     sounds interestingCerenox 7/1/04 3:54 a.m.
           Re: sounds interestingSOA 7/1/04 5:52 a.m.
                 They bounce like a superball...Darkendes 7/2/04 3:11 a.m.
                       Re: They bounce like a superball...SOA 7/2/04 6:42 a.m.
                             Forgot to mention...SOA 7/2/04 6:56 a.m.
                                   Re: Forgot to mention...Darkendes 7/2/04 7:29 a.m.
                                   Re: Forgot to mention...chaotic_mind 7/2/04 6:09 p.m.
                                         how bout this......Timmay 7/2/04 10:57 p.m.
     Just some thoughts on all this...Mahars 7/8/04 12:18 a.m.
           Only nine planets in our Solar System, not galaxy *NM*Mister Chiffe 7/8/04 3:10 a.m.
                 10, actually, You're forgetting Sedna *NM* *NM*Menelvendwarf 7/8/04 4:28 a.m.
     Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)up this 7/8/04 7:56 p.m.
     Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)st. manathus 7/8/04 11:07 p.m.
           Its Been Said?Phaiz 7/9/04 4:48 a.m.
     Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Noir. 7/12/04 6:51 p.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Pak 7/12/04 6:58 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)owlalf 7/12/04 7:08 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)a Bomb 7/13/04 9:00 a.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Timmay 7/13/04 11:11 p.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)scorpionx7 7/12/04 11:28 p.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)yakaman 7/12/04 11:28 p.m.
     Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Raphite 7/13/04 10:04 p.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Timmay 7/13/04 11:24 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)scorpionx7 7/14/04 1:36 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Raphite 7/14/04 6:33 p.m.
                       Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Timmay 7/15/04 2:50 a.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)yakaman 7/14/04 2:38 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Raphite 7/14/04 6:55 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)scorpionx7 7/14/04 8:33 p.m.
                       Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)PsycoJoe 7/15/04 12:07 a.m.
                             The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Timmay 7/15/04 3:00 a.m.
                                   Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)scorpionx7 7/15/04 2:37 p.m.
                             Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)scorpionx7 7/15/04 2:36 p.m.
                             Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Raphite 7/15/04 10:58 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Timmay 7/15/04 2:55 a.m.



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