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DNA isn't enough to revive a species.
Posted By: LietLivesDate: 6/29/04 11:36 p.m.

In Response To: Re: heres my problem.. (Zaknafein)

: If the Forerunner could use the DNA replace the several different species
: that had become extinct in the galaxy, they could store the Flood DNA and
: do away with the actual creatures. When they want to study them again,
: they would just have to use the stored DNA, make a group of Flood, and
: start conducting research. This virtually eliminates the threat of the
: Flood escaping, yet preserves their species for study.

Just because you have DNA doesn't mean you can recreate a species, or even a single organism. Remember Dolly, the cloned sheep? The DNA was extracted from the adult cells a female sheep, then inserted into an egg produced by that same sheep that had had its own, haploid, DNA removed. After several failures, they finally managed to get one clone, which had half the life span!

DNA is not the end all, be all to understanding life. It is one crucial part of living chemistry among many, many others. Remember, most human DNA is "junk", unused base pairs that are not "read" by RNA to produce proteins. DNA is only the blueprint. It has to be copied by a cell in order to reproduce, and it is used as a template for one step in the creation of proteins. By itself, it's just a huge protein with some funky embelishments.

If you took the DNA from the Flood, what kind of cell would you put it in? Unless you placed it in a Flood cell, the RNA of the new cell could easily read the wrong parts of the DNA, in accordance with its own processes, and you would not get the organism you were trying to produce. Just moving a gene can have disasterous effects, and that doesn't even require changing the base pair sequence, just moving it away from where the place where it codes for something useful.

And don't forget that eukaryotic cells aren't actually a single organism. Mitochodria have their own DNA, which is not part of the reproduction of the rest of the cell. They are essentially a foreign organism existing within the eukaryotic cell. There is no evidence that Flood are or are not eukaryotes, but if they were, and you removed the DNA from one and later implanted it into another kind of cell, it could be lacking important organelles necessary for the cell to function.

So basically, DNA does not an organism make.


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The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)yakaman 6/27/04 2:22 p.m.
     The above is long, REAL long. *NM*DragonReborn 6/27/04 2:24 p.m.
     None...I like it. *NM*Marcus 6/27/04 2:25 p.m.
           Ditto. *NM*Blitzwolf 6/27/04 2:47 p.m.
     Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Ninja Steve 6/27/04 2:51 p.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)wmaltby 6/27/04 3:30 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Elf Lord 6/27/04 3:58 p.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)chaotic_mind 6/27/04 5:01 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Nondre 6/27/04 5:06 p.m.
                       Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Zaknafein 6/28/04 11:17 a.m.
                       Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Lone Sniper SG 7/12/04 9:02 p.m.
                             Hey, back it up...Mr.Mongoose 7/12/04 9:28 p.m.
                                   Re: Hey, back it up...mnemesis 7/12/04 10:11 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Zaknafein 6/28/04 11:15 a.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)th3ranger 6/30/04 10:52 p.m.
                       Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Matfield 7/1/04 10:42 p.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Zealous 6/29/04 12:44 a.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)aznthunder 6/29/04 1:41 a.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Alf-Life 7/11/04 11:11 a.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Vitron 7/11/04 12:44 p.m.
                 It's a novel!yakaman 7/11/04 12:46 p.m.
     Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Louis Wu 6/27/04 3:35 p.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Mr. Mojo Risin 6/27/04 4:19 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)wmaltby 6/27/04 4:20 p.m.
                       Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)a Bomb 7/12/04 8:43 p.m.
                             Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Lone Sniper SG 7/12/04 8:54 p.m.
                                   Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Pak 7/12/04 9:04 p.m.
                             Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Pak 7/12/04 9:00 p.m.
                                   Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)a Bomb 7/12/04 9:07 p.m.
                                         and I'm NOT one of them :P *NM*a Bomb 7/12/04 9:09 p.m.
                                         Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Pak 7/12/04 9:19 p.m.
                                               Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)a Bomb 7/12/04 9:38 p.m.
                                               Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)scorpionx7 7/12/04 11:18 p.m.
                             A fun idea but you forgot its "local years"Gundulf 7/12/04 9:23 p.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Sep7imus [subnova] 6/27/04 5:05 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Pico 6/27/04 5:13 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Wado SG 6/27/04 5:16 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Zaknafein 6/28/04 11:21 a.m.
                       Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)cyberdude21 7/28/04 10:36 p.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 6/27/04 5:13 p.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)yakaman 6/27/04 8:14 p.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Zaknafein 6/28/04 11:37 a.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)th3ranger 6/30/04 11:03 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)a Bomb 7/12/04 8:51 p.m.
                       Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Pak 7/12/04 8:56 p.m.
                             Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)a Bomb 7/12/04 8:59 p.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Steve Ollett 7/1/04 3:13 a.m.
     Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Nondre 6/27/04 5:07 p.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 6/27/04 5:18 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Nondre 6/27/04 5:23 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Louis Wu 6/27/04 8:52 p.m.
                       Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 6/27/04 9:52 p.m.
     I notice one major flawToddzilla 6/27/04 7:32 p.m.
           Re: I notice one major flawchaotic_mind 6/27/04 8:05 p.m.
                 Re: I notice one major flawToddzilla 6/27/04 8:14 p.m.
                       Re: I notice one major flawchaotic_mind 6/27/04 8:19 p.m.
                             Re: I notice one major flawyakaman 6/27/04 8:26 p.m.
                                   Re: I notice one major flawSaint 6/27/04 10:21 p.m.
                 Re: I notice one major flawyakaman 6/27/04 8:35 p.m.
                 Re: I notice one major flawSaint 6/27/04 10:13 p.m.
           Re: I notice one major flawyakaman 6/27/04 8:23 p.m.
     heres my problem..Zaknafein 6/28/04 12:09 p.m.
           Re: heres my problem..yakaman 6/28/04 5:35 p.m.
                 Re: heres my problem..Timmay 6/28/04 7:56 p.m.
                 Re: heres my problem..Karellen Lurksalot 6/29/04 4:31 a.m.
                       Re: heres my problem..Zaknafein 6/29/04 11:09 a.m.
                             Re: heres my problem..Karellen Lurksalot 6/29/04 12:23 p.m.
                                   Re: heres my problem..Louis Wu 6/29/04 12:32 p.m.
                                         Re: heres my problem..Karellen Lurksalot 6/29/04 1:58 p.m.
                                               Re: heres my problem..Rampant Cowboy 6/29/04 5:16 p.m.
                                               Re: heres my problem..ThorsHammer 6/29/04 9:48 p.m.
                                                     Re: heres my problem..Karellen Lurksalot 6/30/04 4:52 a.m.
                                   Re: heres my problem..Zaknafein 6/29/04 3:35 p.m.
                             DNA isn't enough to revive a species.LietLives 6/29/04 11:36 p.m.
                 Re: heres my problem..Steve Ollett 7/1/04 3:22 a.m.
           Speculation. Very Rampant. Warning, Long Post.chaotic_mind 6/29/04 5:57 a.m.
           Re: heres my problem..Wado SG 6/29/04 11:32 p.m.
                 Re: heres my problem..LietLives 6/30/04 12:03 a.m.
           Re: heres my problem..a Bomb 7/12/04 9:27 p.m.
     sounds interestingCerenox 7/1/04 3:54 a.m.
           Re: sounds interestingSOA 7/1/04 5:52 a.m.
                 They bounce like a superball...Darkendes 7/2/04 3:11 a.m.
                       Re: They bounce like a superball...SOA 7/2/04 6:42 a.m.
                             Forgot to mention...SOA 7/2/04 6:56 a.m.
                                   Re: Forgot to mention...Darkendes 7/2/04 7:29 a.m.
                                   Re: Forgot to mention...chaotic_mind 7/2/04 6:09 p.m.
                                         how bout this......Timmay 7/2/04 10:57 p.m.
     Just some thoughts on all this...Mahars 7/8/04 12:18 a.m.
           Only nine planets in our Solar System, not galaxy *NM*Mister Chiffe 7/8/04 3:10 a.m.
                 10, actually, You're forgetting Sedna *NM* *NM*Menelvendwarf 7/8/04 4:28 a.m.
     Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)up this 7/8/04 7:56 p.m.
     Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)st. manathus 7/8/04 11:07 p.m.
           Its Been Said?Phaiz 7/9/04 4:48 a.m.
     Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Noir. 7/12/04 6:51 p.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Pak 7/12/04 6:58 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)owlalf 7/12/04 7:08 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)a Bomb 7/13/04 9:00 a.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Timmay 7/13/04 11:11 p.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)scorpionx7 7/12/04 11:28 p.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)yakaman 7/12/04 11:28 p.m.
     Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Raphite 7/13/04 10:04 p.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Timmay 7/13/04 11:24 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)scorpionx7 7/14/04 1:36 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Raphite 7/14/04 6:33 p.m.
                       Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Timmay 7/15/04 2:50 a.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)yakaman 7/14/04 2:38 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Raphite 7/14/04 6:55 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)scorpionx7 7/14/04 8:33 p.m.
                       Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)PsycoJoe 7/15/04 12:07 a.m.
                             The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Timmay 7/15/04 3:00 a.m.
                                   Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)scorpionx7 7/15/04 2:37 p.m.
                             Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)scorpionx7 7/15/04 2:36 p.m.
                             Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Raphite 7/15/04 10:58 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Timmay 7/15/04 2:55 a.m.



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