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Now THIS get's you thinking
Posted By: FriendlyFire <kurt_bergeron@mac.com>Date: 4/20/04 8:44 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Trautmann! - FS spoilers (Wado SG)

Sorry about the last post, I screwed up the tags. My bad. :(

: Kalmiya, another AI mentioned in First Strike, is an angel prince who has
: authority, with six other princes, of guarding the gate or the so-called
: veil of the seventh heaven. Among the other angel guardians were Gabriel
: and Sandalphon (of course I like Gabriel, for personal reasons, not only
: because he was an Archon... FF, lol).

All this talk of angels and the mention of The Seventh Heaven got me thinking of what exactly is The Seventh Heaven? What's in it? What is ruled over?

A quick search turned up this.

Although the descriptions of the other heavens may bear fruit, I'm focusing on the description of The Seventh Heaven here simply because it's cropped up. Here's a direct quote from the site:

Seventh Heaven (Araboth)

The holiest of heavens. Araboth is ruled by Cassiel and is home to God on his Divine Throne. It is also home to the highest orders of angels--the seraphim, cherubim, and thrones.

The Seventh Heaven is the abode of human souls waiting to be born. It is also the seat of God; of Zagzagel, prince of the Torah; and the dwelling place of the seraphim, hayyoth, etc. It is in the 7th Heaven that Isaiah has a glimpse of God and the Christ and "hears the Most high dictating the program on his (Christs) earthly manifestation and return."

Interesting, but not quite as interesting as the last blurb:

The notion of the 7 Heavens appears in The Testament Of The Twelve Patriarchs and other Jewish apocrypha, and was familiar to the ancient Persians and Babylonians. The Persians pictured the Almighty in the highest of the 7 Heavens, "seated on a great white throne, surrounded by winged cherubim."The Koran also speaks of 7 Heavens.

The Persians? Once again they come up. I think this avenue requires further research as far as the Persian's view of The Seventh Heaven. Besides tying into Bungie's incessant use of 7, could the tru7h lie in the Persian views of The Seven Heaven and what it represents?


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Trautmann!Exogenesis 4/18/04 11:43 p.m.
     Re: Trautmann!Sep7imus [subnova] 4/19/04 9:02 a.m.
           Re: Trautmann!Sep7imus [subnova] 4/19/04 9:17 a.m.
           Re: Trautmann!Ross Mills [subnova 4/19/04 9:39 a.m.
                 Re: Trautmann!Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 4/19/04 10:10 a.m.
                       Re: Trautmann!Sep7imus [subnova] 4/19/04 10:20 a.m.
                             Re: Trautmann!Ross Mills [subnova 4/19/04 11:09 a.m.
                                   Re: Trautmann!Sep7imus [subnova] 4/19/04 11:15 a.m.
                                         Re: Trautmann!Ross Mills [subnova] 4/19/04 12:40 p.m.
                                               Re: Trautmann!G-Prime 4/20/04 12:11 a.m.
                                                     Re: Trautmann!G-Prime 4/20/04 12:18 a.m.
                                                           hmm, sounds on track to me *NM*Ben Roth 4/20/04 12:19 a.m.
                                                           guardian?Brotherswing 4/20/04 1:16 a.m.
                                                           Oh, Mann!Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 4/20/04 9:43 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Oh, Mann!Sep7imus [subnova] 4/20/04 10:19 a.m.
                                                                       Re: Oh, Mann!Anton P. Nym 4/20/04 2:49 p.m.
                                         Re: Trautmann!Eric Trautmann 4/19/04 4:49 p.m.
                                               Re: Trautmann!Sep7imus [subnova] 4/19/04 4:54 p.m.
                                                     Re: Trautmann!Eric Trautmann 4/19/04 4:56 p.m.
                                                           Re: Trautmann!Sep7imus [subnova] 4/19/04 4:58 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Trautmann!Eric Trautmann 4/19/04 4:59 p.m.
                                                                 Fallen Angels= Forunner[BGH]Viper 4/20/04 9:09 p.m.
                       Re: Trautmann!Eric Trautmann 4/19/04 4:48 p.m.
                             Ding-Ding- Ding! Woohoo! *NM*Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 4/19/04 5:39 p.m.
                                   meh....gspawn 4/20/04 12:30 a.m.
                                         Re: meh....MC vince 4/20/04 1:00 a.m.
                                               Re: meh....Dylan 4/20/04 2:36 p.m.
                             Maybe...Michael M. 4/20/04 6:47 p.m.
                                   Typo... typo... typo... *NM*Michael M. 4/20/04 6:59 p.m.
                       Re: Trautmann! - FS spoilersWado SG 4/20/04 2:33 a.m.
                             Looks good to me! *NM*Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 4/20/04 2:46 a.m.
                             Now THIS get's you thinkingFriendlyFire 4/20/04 8:42 a.m.
                                   ^^^^Ignore this one...Messed up HTML :( *NM*FriendlyFire 4/20/04 8:45 a.m.
                             Now THIS get's you thinkingFriendlyFire 4/20/04 8:44 a.m.
                                   To continue...FriendlyFire 4/20/04 9:19 a.m.
                                   Re: Now THIS get's you thinkingRed Loser 4/20/04 12:53 p.m.
                                         Re: Now THIS get's you thinkingEric Trautmann 4/23/04 6:29 p.m.
                             Giants? The Nephilim?Red Loser 4/20/04 1:23 p.m.
                                   Re: Giants? The Nephilim?Wado SG 4/24/04 2:34 a.m.
                                         Re: Giants? The Nephilim?Gre'Thor117 4/24/04 3:02 a.m.
                                               Re: Giants? The Nephilim?Wado SG 4/24/04 1:53 p.m.
                                                     Re: Giants? The Nephilim?Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 4/24/04 4:37 p.m.
                             My components of different theoriesmeleeman 4/20/04 7:37 p.m.
                             Re: Trautmann! - FS spoilersFork Me With A Spoon 4/20/04 8:24 p.m.
                                   Re: Trautmann!Patrick Corkery 4/20/04 11:56 p.m.
                                         A not so magical theoryRhapsodical Stardimple 4/21/04 9:06 p.m.
           Re: Trautmann!Eric Trautmann 4/19/04 4:54 p.m.
     Re: Trautmann!Eric Trautmann 4/19/04 4:52 p.m.
           soo...King Kracka 4/20/04 2:12 a.m.
                 Re: soo...Ross Mills [subnova] 4/20/04 5:13 a.m.
                       Re: soo...Stian M 4/20/04 5:34 a.m.
                             Fallen Angels=Demons'Nosolee 4/20/04 9:10 a.m.
                                   Re: Fallen Angels=Demonschibichief 4/20/04 10:34 a.m.
                                   Re: Fallen Angels=DemonsPballwizard 4/21/04 1:50 p.m.
     what this makes ME think about it all....desmodus78 4/20/04 10:57 a.m.
           Re: what this makes ME think about it all....Raskonza 4/20/04 11:19 a.m.
                 Re: what this makes ME think about it all....Sfpiano 4/20/04 3:47 p.m.
                       Re: what this makes ME think about it all....Steve 4/20/04 8:01 p.m.
                             Re: what this makes ME think about it all....Fork Me With A Spoon 4/20/04 8:35 p.m.
                                   Re: what this makes ME think about it all....P3,FOYFN 4/20/04 9:07 p.m.
                             Re: what this makes ME think about it all....P3,FOYFN 4/20/04 9:06 p.m.
                 Re: what this makes ME think about it all....P3,FOYFN 4/20/04 4:47 p.m.
                       Re: what this makes ME think about it all....Here'sJohnny 4/20/04 5:37 p.m.
                       Re: what this makes ME think about it all....Red Loser 4/20/04 5:38 p.m.
                             The Cole ProtocolP3,FOYFN 4/20/04 6:38 p.m.
                                   Re: The Cole ProtocolRed Loser 4/20/04 7:56 p.m.
                                         Re: The Cole ProtocolP3,FOYFN 4/20/04 8:37 p.m.
                                               Re: The Cole ProtocolFork Me With A Spoon 4/20/04 9:34 p.m.
                                                     Re: The Cole ProtocolAin Soph Aur 4/21/04 11:40 p.m.
           Re: what this makes ME think about it all....Shikei 4/20/04 9:27 p.m.
                 Re: what this makes ME think about it all....Eric Trautmann 4/23/04 7:43 p.m.
                       Re: what this makes ME think about it all....Saint 4/23/04 7:45 p.m.
                       Re: what this makes ME think about it all....Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 4/23/04 9:49 p.m.
                       who wears a halo *OT*daedalus 4/27/04 8:55 a.m.
     Re: Trautmann!somo1257 4/20/04 6:01 p.m.
     Re: Trautmann!R>C> 4/21/04 12:00 a.m.
           Re: Trautmann!Alias: 18 4/21/04 6:51 a.m.
                 Re: Trautmann!Ain Soph Aur 4/21/04 11:42 p.m.
                       Re: Trautmann!Alias: 18 4/22/04 12:04 a.m.
                             Re: Trautmann!Ain Soph Aur 4/22/04 2:24 a.m.
                                   Re: Trautmann!Eric Trautmann 4/23/04 7:46 p.m.
                                         Re: Trautmann![BGH]Viper 4/23/04 10:00 p.m.
                                               Re: Trautmann!Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 4/24/04 5:20 p.m.
           Re: Trautmann!Exogenesis 4/21/04 6:09 p.m.



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