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Re: Reading TOO much into Guilty Spark?
Posted By: Vanillathunder <newman_126@hotmail.com>Date: 9/25/03 1:33 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Reading TOO much into Guilty Spark? (Infantier)

: Does GS mean the MC by saying "you" or does he just mean "your
: kind".

: It is very common for people to say "you" when they mean "your
: lot", as in (please excuse the politics of this example)- Englishman
: to a German "well, you started the war". It doesn't mean the
: individual does it? It just means "you the Germans", of whom
: "you" are the unfortunate immediate representative.

: If this is what GS means , then it avoids a lot of the complexity and lets us
: escape from (Shishka's?) time travel nightmares that so often get into
: this type of discussion.

: Undoubtedly, GS thinks "we" have done something before, but the
: question is unanswered - just who does he think "we" are?
: Forerunner? Human? or just the unfortunate immediate representative of one
: of those groups?

: It's a bitch ain't it?

Yeah, it is.

Still, though.. it takes a lot of OVER COMPLICATED explain-aways out of the mix.

Why hesitate in firing a weapon that you just went through all of that trouble to load and prime?

Think from GS's perspective. He's an A.I. and he has a rule set to follow. He's going to follow those rules to the end. (Uh oh, this smacks of 2001/2010) No matter what, even if it means killing you.

We've gotten the weapon to the point where our interaction will no longer be needed..

Hence
"Why would you"

The player, and reclaimer.

"hesistate to do"

Not want to fire the weapon

"What you've already done"

Taken the process to a point where you are no longer needed.

Think in terms like this:

You have a handgun, you pull the trigger, the firing pin hits the primer, the primer ignites.. lights the gunpowder and the bullet flies out the barrel.

In this analogy, you've already pulled the trigger and the 343GS is the firing pin...

It's like trying to stop a bullet before it leaves the chamber, but after you pull the trigger. Now, from 343GS's perspective.. isn't that a little late to be having second thoughts?

I think this fits together a LOT easier than time travelling MC's and trying to put together stuff from the Bungie Mythos.

Consider this:

In PiTD, the Jjaro send a hologram to earth to warn us. This kind of shows you that we were known of for "millions of years". Hence, 343GS' knowledge of us, but puts us in a very nice position to not be affected by the Halo firing. 343GS, being around for a VERY long time and RUNNING A STATION OF CONTAINMENT AND STUDY, specifically of a species which feeds on sentient life would most likely be aware of any and all current and upcoming races which would be affected by the Flood.

That being said, Reclaimer is just (IMO) a nice term to put for the guy who "reclaims the index" to fire the Halo.

Get your SAT books out!

Reclaimer is to Index as Finger is to Trigger.

You've "Reclaimed" the index from its hiding place.

Side Note:

What if the Flood are used as Terraforming objects, much like the F'lickta and S'pht are in Marathon. Certainly there is a JJaro link to both the Marathon and Halo stories.. maybe the Flood are a different version of the F'lickta and S'pht??

It would make sense that if you have Terraforming and Maintenance species:

Fleeing all W'rkncacnter, Yrro and Pthia
settled upon Lh'owon. They brought the
S'pht, servants who began to shape the
deserts of Lh'owon into marsh and sea,
rivers and forests. They made sisters for
Lh'owon to protect and maintain the paradise.

We are leaving behind many F'lickta to keep
the ducts clean and working. They should
be able to build one of their stable
societies here- there is plenty of food.

You would certainly have a cleanup and destruction crew.

I dunno.. I'm ranting.


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Replies:

Reading TOO much into Guilty Spark?Vanillathunder 9/25/03 10:47 a.m.
     Re: Reading TOO much into Guilty Spark?Hikaru-119 9/25/03 12:23 p.m.
     Re: Reading TOO much into Guilty Spark?Infantier 9/25/03 12:25 p.m.
           Re: Reading TOO much into Guilty Spark?Vanillathunder 9/25/03 1:33 p.m.
                 Re: Reading TOO much into Guilty Spark?Sep7imus [subnova] 9/25/03 1:39 p.m.
                       Re: Reading TOO much into Guilty Spark?Vanillathunder 9/25/03 1:42 p.m.
                 Re: Reading TOO much into Guilty Spark?Mr. Mechanical 9/25/03 2:44 p.m.
                       Re: Reading TOO much into Guilty Spark?Surrept 9/25/03 3:01 p.m.
                             Re: Reading TOO much into Guilty Spark?Vanillathunder 9/25/03 3:15 p.m.
                 Re: Reading TOO much into Guilty Spark?Surrept 9/25/03 2:47 p.m.
                       Re: Reading TOO much into Guilty Spark?Vanillathunder 9/25/03 3:17 p.m.
                 Re: Reading TOO much into Guilty Spark?that guy over there who smiles just a bit too wide 9/26/03 5:41 p.m.
           Re: Reading TOO much into Guilty Spark?Druff 9/27/03 4:01 a.m.
                 Re: Reading TOO much into Guilty Spark?Druff 9/27/03 4:07 a.m.
     MC PlumberWado SG 9/25/03 3:43 p.m.
           Bravo, sir!Mr. Mechanical 9/25/03 4:57 p.m.
           Damn you!mnemesis 9/25/03 5:40 p.m.
                 Nooooooo, I'm sorry I won't do it again... :) *NM*Wado SG 9/25/03 5:50 p.m.
           That is hilariousMiguel Chavez 9/25/03 7:09 p.m.
           Hysterical... not to mention insightful :) *NM*Finn 9/25/03 11:51 p.m.
           Exceptionally cool! :) *NM*Tursas 9/26/03 12:21 p.m.
           good job.HipboyScott 9/26/03 3:05 p.m.
                 Re: Thanks allWado SG 9/26/03 3:41 p.m.
           Teh golden comedy! *NM*Jamirus99 9/26/03 3:34 p.m.
           MC Plumber in haloothat guy over there who smiles just a bit too wide 9/26/03 5:28 p.m.
           Re: MC Plumberthat guy over there who smiles just a bit too wide 9/26/03 6:42 p.m.
                 Re: MC Plumbermeleeman 9/26/03 8:28 p.m.



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