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Ok, ok, good lord calm down...
Posted By: Ben Schodek@mediaone.net <schodek@mediaone.net>Date: 10/14/99 12:53 p.m.

In Response To: in response to Michael and Ben (Nathan)

> But none of this was the point. For pete's sake, it's 4th-grade
> biology, not high school biology, and I'll gladly put my grade
> school, high school and college biology grades on par with
> anyone.

> The point was that we were arguing about SEMANTICS that really
> had nothing to do with the gameplay. I am talking about a game,
> not biology. In some cases, the best word to fit a situation
> might not be the most accurate word. The point is that you guys
> had taken something we said and twisted it incorrectly based on
> semantics. This is not the same as me saying what "we mean
> by race". I am not HERE to discuss the scientific debate of
> race being a subset of species (which is a debate, sorry guys,
> URLs in private email if this has to go any further), I'm not
> here to discuss the war in Kosovo.

> I only wanted to state that the Covenant are made up of a
> consortium of WHATEVER WORD YOU WANT TO USE to indicate that
> they don't all look the same and that they're not limited to
> three. That's ALL. I think it is unfortunate that someone felt
> the need to stir up an article out of it, but that is their
> right.

> Here is the Cambridge definition:

> a group, esp. of people, with particular similar physical
> characteristics, who are considered as belonging to the same
> type, or the fact of belonging to such a group

> [NOTICE HOW DIFFERENCE THAT IS THAN A *BIOLOGICAL* DEFINITION -
> I NEVER SAID I WAS USING A BIOLOGICAL DEFINITION, A SOCIAL
> DEFINITION OR ANYTHING ELSE]

> Race is sometimes used to mean a group of people whO share the
> same language, history, characteristics, etc..

> [AGAIN NOTICE THE DIFFERENCE - SOUNDS LIKE ETHNICITY TO ME ... I
> HOPE YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS IS NOT - PARDON THE PUN - BLACK AND
> WHITE]

> The French race is/are sometimes said to have a strong interest
> in food. [C + sing/pl v]

> The French race? Yes, that sentence came from the Cambridge
> dictionary.

> Sorry, but this doesn't fit your definition. And none of the
> definitions mention race being a synonym for
> "sub-species". Race is a human construct, not a
> biological one - IN MY OPINION. And, no, this particular college
> textbook does NOT list 'race' under species as biological
> classification, although it mentions the debate.

> So please ... if we are going to discuss it further, let's take
> it to email. This isn't why I'm on the board and I can hear
> others saying now ... "This is why we don't post on
> forums." And Michael, I don't mean this to be offensive,
> but I am kind of disappointed that you found this news-worthy as
> far as Halo goes. I really don't think it has much to do with
> the game, but is rather a sociological or biological debate.

> Or at best, even if you guys insist, an accepted biological
> fact. Either way, this will be my last response unless you
> prefer private email, since this doesn't have much to do with
> Bungie or Halo. :-)

> Thanks,

> Nathan

*whew* I wasn't expecting that, jeez... I was mearly stating that Michaels definition was what I thought of when I heard the word race. Aperently Im wrong, but woa!, I didn't really mean to make a big scene of anything here... I was just stating what I thought the word race meant, and saying that I was glad you guys had clarified what you meant by race. If I made this mistake, maybe others have too, because aperently race is quite the arguable word... Well, Im glad I know how you are using the word, thats all I was really asking in the first place. I wasn't saying "oh, your wrong" I was just saying how I interpreded the word, sorry about the confusion... and I'm glad I now know what you mean by the word.

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Replies:

3 alien species, eh?Chris 10/9/99 10:34 p.m.
     Re: 3 alien species, eh?Noctavis =PN= 10/10/99 2:30 a.m.
           Re: 3 alien species, eh?Grey 10/10/99 7:09 a.m.
                 Confederacy? When was this? (NT)Louis 10/10/99 11:30 a.m.
                       Re: Confederacy? When was this?Forensic 10/10/99 1:39 p.m.
                             Re: Confederacy? When was this?Nathan 10/12/99 1:12 a.m.
                                   Re: Confederacy? When was this?Forensic 10/12/99 10:26 a.m.
                                         Re: Confederacy? When was this?Claude Errera 10/12/99 11:54 a.m.
                                               Re: Confederacy? When was this?Mark Levin 10/12/99 12:17 p.m.
                                                     Re: Confederacy? When was this?Forensic 10/12/99 3:49 p.m.
                                                           Re: Confederacy? When was this?Nathan 10/12/99 6:08 p.m.
                                                                 speaking of "races"...Ben Schodek 10/12/99 9:29 p.m.
                                                                       Re: speaking of "races"...Michael Eilers 10/13/99 4:55 p.m.
                                                                             Talk about SillyIsland Four 10/14/99 1:35 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: Talk about SillyDan Rudolph 10/14/99 9:42 a.m.
                                                                                         Re: Talk about Sillyphayd 10/14/99 3:03 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: Talk about SillyLouis 10/14/99 3:21 p.m.
                                                                                   sorry, but...Ben Schodek 10/14/99 11:22 a.m.
                                                                                         in response to Michael and BenNathan 10/14/99 12:34 p.m.
                                                                                               Ok, ok, good lord calm down...Ben Schodek@mediaone.net 10/14/99 12:53 p.m.
                                                                                               I knew there was something up w/the french!Cannibal Harry 10/14/99 2:21 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: in response to Michael and BenMichael Eilers 10/14/99 2:47 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: in response to Michael and BenMark Levin 10/14/99 4:21 p.m.
                                                                                                     No hard feelings ... reallyNathan 10/15/99 7:36 a.m.
                                                                                                           Doesn't really expect to be answered, but...Forensic 10/15/99 3:20 p.m.
                                                                                               Zoicks!Forensic 10/14/99 11:40 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: Talk about SillyJared Cash 10/14/99 12:52 p.m.
                                                                                         I Give UpNathan 10/14/99 2:02 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: I Give UpJared Cash 10/14/99 2:09 p.m.
                                   Re: Confederacy? When was this?RedWind 10/12/99 3:03 p.m.
                                         who said phfor??Ben Schodek 10/12/99 9:21 p.m.
                                               Hoorah!Mage 10/12/99 9:28 p.m.
                                               Marathon 4 would be pretty cool tho ;) (NT)Mark Levin 10/12/99 9:31 p.m.
                                               Re: who said phfor??Dispatcher 10/12/99 10:23 p.m.
                                               Re: who said phfor??Jägermeister 10/13/99 12:11 a.m.
                                                     Re: who said phfor??Ben Schodek 10/13/99 2:14 p.m.
                                                           Re: who said phfor??Mark Levin 10/13/99 3:10 p.m.
                                                                 NahDesio 10/13/99 4:53 p.m.
                                                                       Re: NahJägermeister 10/13/99 5:36 p.m.
                                                                             Like W'rkncacnter? ; ) NTDesio 10/14/99 6:54 p.m.
                                                                             Or "Misspell"Two B King 10/15/99 10:09 a.m.
                                                     Re: who said phfor??Jon Merriman 10/13/99 9:04 p.m.
                                                           I'm saying "Crowning Glory".Dispatcher 10/13/99 9:56 p.m.
                                               BTW, it's PFHOR, not PHFOR! NTJägermeister 10/13/99 12:49 p.m.
                                   The difference?Chris 10/12/99 5:32 p.m.
                 Re: 3 alien species, eh?SiliconDream 10/10/99 9:57 p.m.
                       Re: 3 alien species, eh?Dr. F. 10/12/99 3:02 p.m.
                 AyeNoctavis the Insomniac 10/11/99 1:39 a.m.



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